Fitzpatrick Thread -- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jets agree to 1-year, $12M deal

mykcuz

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absolutely understood.. but who's got 12 million in their back pocket (or is willing to free up that kind of money just before training camps open) just in case their starter goes down??
I'm agreeing with you.

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Fair question. I'm not sure if a team is out there, but it would have to be a contender with a decent starting QB, and a decent amount of cap room. I'm not sure if there are many teams that fit that bill, but I would prefer not finding out.
 

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Fair question. I'm not sure if a team is out there, but it would have to be a contender with a decent starting QB, and a decent amount of cap room. I'm not sure if there are many teams that fit that bill, but I would prefer not finding out.
Correct me, but if their starter was injured for the year, his salary wouldn't go against the cap. So say a team has 4 million in room and a20 mill qb went down on Ir, they would have 24 mill in cap room.

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Mike Francesa was saying today, that he believes the deal gets done and the pressure for both sides was always training camp.

His info on the negotiation was that Fitz was happy with the first year, and the second year salary was the sticking point. 15 is guaranteed between year one and two. The deal included makeable first year incentives that would increase to a potential 15 million year 1 salary, if he had similar numbers to last year.

If year 2 is the only hold up, I think this deal gets done.

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Correct me, but if their starter was injured for the year, his salary wouldn't go against the cap. So say a team has 4 million in room and a20 mill qb went down on Ir, they would have 24 mill in cap room.

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no, that's wrong. the injured player would still count against the cap (unless the team cuts the player before the season started)
 

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Mike Francesa was saying today, that he believes the deal gets done and the pressure for both sides was always training camp.

His info on the negotiation was that Fitz was happy with the first year, and the second year salary was the sticking point. 15 is guaranteed between year one and two. The deal included makeable first year incentives that would increase to a potential 15 million year 1 salary, if he had similar numbers to last year.

If year 2 is the only hold up, I think this deal gets done.

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How about a 2 year/$20M contract that is fully guaranteed?? Won't get that anywhere else. Nobody is guaranteeing money for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
 

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How about a 2 year/$20M contract that is fully guaranteed?? Won't get that anywhere else. Nobody is guaranteeing money for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
sounds to easy.. if the jets could sign fitzpatrick to say, the veteran league minimum for 2 years with a 20 million signing bonus, wouldn't we see deals like this on every roster in the NFL??

or are you saying no bonus, just 10 million per year over a two year span, all guaranteed??
 

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sounds to easy.. if the jets could sign fitzpatrick to say, the veteran league minimum for 2 years with a 20 million signing bonus, wouldn't we see deals like this on every roster in the NFL??

or are you saying no bonus, just 10 million per year over a two year span, all guaranteed??

I was thinking $20M guaranteed at $10M per year. Not even sure if that's possible.


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Mike Francesa was saying today, that he believes the deal gets done and the pressure for both sides was always training camp.

His info on the negotiation was that Fitz was happy with the first year, and the second year salary was the sticking point. 15 is guaranteed between year one and two. The deal included makeable first year incentives that would increase to a potential 15 million year 1 salary, if he had similar numbers to last year.

If year 2 is the only hold up, I think this deal gets done.

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I thought it was the prorated 3 year deal that was the problem. The contract was for 24 million for three years making his number 8 per year. Fitz (i thought) was happy with the guaranteed 12 million year one, but not with 6 for each of the next two.
 

mykcuz

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I thought it was the prorated 3 year deal that was the problem. The contract was for 24 million for three years making his number 8 per year. Fitz (i thought) was happy with the guaranteed 12 million year one, but not with 6 for each of the next two.
It was a 6 million per year, 3 year deal, with a6 mill signing bonus over 3 years.

So I guess he's happy wroth the 6+6 guaranteed in year 1,which likely would reach 15 mill in value, but not with 6 mill year 2.

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mykcuz

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no, that's wrong. the injured player would still count against the cap (unless the team cuts the player before the season started)
Or if the injury was before week 1 and they put the qb on the exempt list. I think.

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mykcuz

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I find it hard to believe this is anything beyond posturing. The Jets by far have offered him the most cash. Camp hasn't started and the second year of the deal is the hanger.

The rumor is Fitz and the Jets haven't spoke in 6 weeks. The rumor was also that mo and the Jets weren't speaking...

With 15 mill guaranteed, is Fitz retiring?not likely.

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Or if the injury was before week 1 and they put the qb on the exempt list. I think.

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the exempt list isn't for injured players. it's for players with outstanding legal issues (like adrian peterson or greg hardy) who get paid while on the list but don't count against the cap. and only the commissioner can approve someone going on the list, so a team can't just stash an injured player on it to try and get around the cap
 

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I find it hard to believe this is anything beyond posturing. The Jets by far have offered him the most cash. Camp hasn't started and the second year of the deal is the hanger.

The rumor is Fitz and the Jets haven't spoke in 6 weeks. The rumor was also that mo and the Jets weren't speaking...

With 15 mill guaranteed, is Fitz retiring?not likely.

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Also is Fitz going to take considerably less to be a backup just to spite the Jets.
 

mykcuz

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Also is Fitz going to take considerably less to be a backup just to spite the Jets.
I think the Jets are clearly the best offer, so it's not logical that he's using the threat of another team against the Jets.
The Broncos preferred to give up a draft pick to make Sanchez their starter over paying Fitz.

I think the only threat Fitz has is retirement. We've seen guys make their money and retire early. However, being that he's played on shit teams for 3 mill a year after already earning close to 100 mill, makes me think if he wasn't concerned about injury at 3 mill per year, why would he suddenly change this year.

Francesa rarely promotes rumors that aren't credible, if it's really just the 2nd year that's the issue, this should get resolved. I think Fitz was playing the nice guy and expected a quick signing, and has now dug in.

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mykcuz

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Spite is not as common as fans might think. I don't see too many cases of players taking less money just to spite a team because of negotiations.
I believe that was his point.

We are no more than a couple folks at a murder mystery, trying to figure everything out.

I don't feel this is a big issue, but could the Jets have offended Fitz? They have named him the starter but have offered big backup money, and by cutting his pay in half year 2, they have basically say you're our best option this year, but we hope you're gone next year.

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I believe that was his point.

We are no more than a couple folks at a murder mystery, trying to figure everything out.

I don't feel this is a big issue, but could the Jets have offended Fitz? They have named him the starter but have offered big backup money, and by cutting his pay in half year 2, they have basically say you're our best option this year, but we hope you're gone next year.

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Leave it to the Jets to be in this situation with a career average QB who had a career year and yet the entire league doesn't want him. Stick to your guns front office and give him a deadline. If not signed by the second week of TC, go with Geno and if we suck it just improves our draft spot and gives us an easier schedule next year. Maybe have to draft another QB, but maybe this year we can find out about all 3. I just don't want a distraction to linger and hopefully the Jets realize Fitz is not worth the hassle.
 
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