How did it all go bad so fast?
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I agree you shouldn't base Bowles job security on whether or not he beats the Bills, but the collapse at the end of last season is the big thing. It really could have been any team. The point is, Bowles was unable to get the team into the playoffs. This year? Bowles has been so incompetent that it just lets you know that all of the success from last season was total luck and a cupcake schedule.
On top of that you have to consider all of the other problems with the team. Veteran players that are most normally reliable becoming problems and setting a bad example for all of the younger guys. These are problems that a guy like Bill Parcells has never gone through because he is enough of a disciplinarian. Todd Bowles is nothing like Bill Parcells. Based on what I've seen in almost two seasons, I think Todd Bowles is a guy that talks a big game, but he has not subjected any of the players to that discipline?
And other things like him not changing the lineup? Does everyone remember 1999? After Vinny went down, the team immediately went into a tailspin and started 1-6. Parcells said and I quote to the media, "I'm done. I'm not going to deal with this shit. I am going to make changes and get this team to start playing better." Parcells decided to bench Rick Mirer and went to Ray Lucas, he made a few other changes in important areas of the starting lineup and depth. Then miraculously the team started playing better? In fact they closed out the 1999 schedule having gone 7-2.
Now we look at Bowles and what we see is a guy that is allowing this tailspin to happen not only through 7 games but through the entire season. He has not made any significant changes from the start of the season right up until now..........
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This, I also do not understand? How could you possibly say with any degree of certainty that Mac is on his way to developing a good team? I will agree that Leonard Williams is an excellent up and coming player. But guys like Darron Lee and Robbie Anderson you cannot say have made the team any better? The fact is, they have not helped the team win more games. Darron Lee making the defensive calls the other night sealed the teams fate as well. He never called the right defense and the players were never in the right spots.
But the biggest thing is regardless of what you think about the players he has picked, the problem is NEGLECT. That's why this season has gone to hell. He summarily ignored drafting an OL. That need was paramount for this team. Everyone and their brother knew the Jets needed an OL. It was no secret. Then after Mac decided to get part time players and not guys that could contribute all the time, I figured he would use FA to get an OL. Someone, anyone....a Tackle or a Guard or both.
Going into the season without having improved that area of the team was a death sentence. It all starts up front and that is Football 101.
So how you could say Mac is developing a good team, is just beyond me?
Now, I agree that Mac should stay because he has done some good things, but if you are not concerned that the guy could be the same incompetent retard that Todd Bowles is then I think you are delusional........
i cannot argue against any of this. Bowles does not seem like a good coach. I just don't think we should base our opinion of his tenure on the two games against the Bills but instead look at the overall picture like you have done. Like I mentioned, I've seen enough of Bowles when he opted to punt against the Steelers. He's naive enough to think his crappy defense would have gotten the ball back from Big Ben and the steelers.
Just those two games ...no....(.still very telling)
But add the two with this year as I stated
I hope they lose out also, but I don't think Woody will fire TB if they do. The 10-6 record last year will or should buy TB another year or two atleast. Rex got six years out of this deal and yes his first two years were great but the last 4 were horrid. He should have probably been fired after year 4 as fast as they fell off the map after his first two years but he didn't. Not a black or white thing but winning should say something and TB did win his first year here. That should buy him another year or two. If he doesn't do something good next year, he's on the hot seat IMO.
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pump the breaks.. we wouldn't want to be confused with the browns.. oh, wait??
LMAO, your right! We pretty much are the Browns!!!
i was goofin'.. yes, we are awful but we don't get rid of HC's & GM's like the browns do..
Would it have been better if the Jets lost a week or two before the final game, then beat Buffalo but lost out on the playoffs in a tiebreaker?
Same result, 10-6, just miss out on playoffs. But the perception is different because they won the last game, right?
Same result, 10-6, just miss out on playoffs. But the perception is different because they won the last game, right?