Jets OTA's & Mini Camp News and Notes

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ucrenegade

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I'll forever hate Sudfeld (football hate, not real hate) after he lost that jump-ball at the goal-line in Green Bay last year, stood there like a 6' 7" Wooden Indian and just watched this little DB go up and intercept the ball right before the half, which completely changed the momentum of that game when we were shockingly blowing the Packers out of the building.

If the big doofus just knocks it down we go into the half with a 24 point lead, all of the MO, and probably start the season 2-0 with Geno getting off to a great start. After GB came back and won that game, it sucked the life out of this team, and I blame that big doofus for the retched season that followed.

I blame rex for everything
 

The Wicker Man

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Nice to see a picture of someone other than Kyle Wilson wearing #20
Every time the Jets photographers went to take Wilson's picture it was always a partial side view. He never seemed to get his head completely turned for a full on head shot.
 

Superman55

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This is why Cumberland and Sudfeld should be worried - UDFA Wes Saxton:

http://prod.images.jets.clubs.nflcd...--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=960&height=720

There was a great article I thibk 51 posted where the jets spread offense has 2 TE positions, with Amaro being considered a starter in more of an Hback role, while CumberLands position is a starting traditional TE. Amaro will be in motion in the backfield more and often split out.

If you tell me this kid will eventually take over for Cumberland, I'll be all smiles. It would be nice to have a playmaker that can block at the position.
 

Old#15

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I saw the article, but I don't see how Cumby can be considered a traditional TE with his blocking issues. I'd rather see KDavis as the in-line TE type with Amaro and Saxton as the H-back types. Saxton is also a weak blocker at this point, but he has mad receiving skills. There will be some cap cutting moves during camp, and I can envision Cumby being one of them.
 

NewMFS62

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Every time the Jets photographers went to take Wilson's picture it was always a partial side view. He never seemed to get his head completely turned for a full on head shot.

I love the subtle nastiness of that comment. Wilson always had problems turning his head around when the ball was in the air.

Later
 
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ucrenegade

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well sudfield will prop stick as a special teams demon, i could see amaro/cumberland/saxton making the team.

i see amaro more in that h/back role and less of a blocking te.
 

Old#15

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well sudfield will prop stick as a special teams demon, i could see amaro/cumberland/saxton making the team.

i see amaro more in that h/back role and less of a blocking te.

We need a blocking TE in the worst way and that's why Kellen Davis was signed. Unless he disappoints, I see him making the team. I really think Cumberland is on the bubble, or at least a luxury they can't afford.
 

cysporsche

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The TURK is going to have a real tough time trimming our roster to 53 plus 10 on the P.S. ?

I don't like Williams wearing # 62.

The "buzz" of the Carolina Panther OTA's down here is WR Stephen Hill.

Go Jets...Cyborg
 

Superman55

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This is why Cumberland and Sudfeld should be worried - UDFA Wes Saxton:

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TEWES SAXTONSOUTH ALABAMA SUN BELT
Photo of Wes Saxton

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.21
?
4.65 SEC
Top Performer
36.0 INCH
Top Performer
119.0 INCH
Top Performer
4.49 SEC
12.52 SEC
BLUE STAR = COMBINE TOP PERFORMER

MORE DRAFT
VIDEO
6'3"
HEIGHT
32"
ARM LENGTH
248LBS.
WEIGHT
9 5/8"
HANDS
OVERVIEW
2014: Played in 12 games with eight starts. Started the first seven games of the season. 2013: First-team All-Sun Belt Conference. Played in all 12 games. 2012: Played in all 13 games with six starts. 2011 (at Itawamba Community College): Second-team All-State MACJC.

PRO DAY RESULTS
Bench press: 19 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Very quick into his route off the snap. Sticks a foot in the ground and opens up quickly to offer quarterback a clean target with good catch radius. Willing to extend and make tough catches in traffic. Too quick for many linebackers on intermediate routes. Former high school receiver who shows some suddenness out of breaks. Hands-catcher. Traits to be a matchup problem on next level.
WEAKNESSES Move tight end only. Appears to lack the toughness to play in-line. Poor effort as a run blocker and offers no power to secure edge or get movement. Routes are still very raw. Hasn't learned to gain as much separation as his athleticism should allow him. Scouts question how hard he will compete when challenged by NFL toughness.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5 or 6
SOURCES TELL US "You have to go back and watch his 2013 tape. They made changes in 2014 to the offense and he wasn't the same player. Go watch 2013. That is who he can be in the pros." -- director of scouting for NFC team
BOTTOM LINE Saxton has traits that have opened the eyes of some scouts. He can run and has the length and hands of an NFL tight end. His biggest draft obstacle is that his willingness and/or ability to compete as a run blocker limits his value to a team. Saxton needs to get bigger and show a greater commitment to improving all facets of his game. For now, he is a developmental prospect with athletic traits.
 

Superman55

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The TURK is going to have a real tough time trimming our roster to 53 plus 10 on the P.S. ?

I don't like Williams wearing # 62.

The "buzz" of the Carolina Panther OTA's down here is WR Stephen Hill.

Go Jets...Cyborg

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article22528977.html

In other news, Bradford limped off the practice field (true story) and Eagles fans believe Sanchez will be fine till Bradford is ready.

Pretty sure I know how both stories will end...I've seen these movies before.
 

Green Jets & Ham

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I think we carry three TE's - Amaro, Cumberland, and Saxton beats out Sudfeld & Davis.

I know a lot of people think Davis sticks as a blocking TE, but IMO the guy is JAG (Just Another Guy) as evidenced by his, what is it now, tenth team that he's on? You don't keep hopping from team to team if you are any good, and thats not the kind of veteran you lose a talented young player like Saxton for.

The prior staff might have kept a scrub just because he can block, and cut loose a talented young TE with mad skills, but I think this staff is a lot smarter than that.
 

Old#15

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Looks like a back up to Amaro for now...

Agree. Seems to me that Cumberland should also be thrown into the move or H-back TE category because he can't block. If the kid shows he is the real deal, Cumby is the one at risk IMHO. Cap space and long term potential all factor in to that decision. Don't understand why TB is saying he is the starter for the typical TE role, unless he is affording him the same 'holdover starter' role as Geno. They go in with 1st team reps, but have to be better than the guy below him.
 
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ucrenegade

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i still think sudfield sticks because of special teams, but his spot should not have a bearing on wether or not we keep saxton also
 

maxmet

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TE situation is very complex because there is some apples and oranges comparison here. Front office will need to decide how much we care about blocking at the TE spot. We have not cared enough about that in recent years, I think.....
 
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