...so the Jets are going to tie up 1/3rd of the salary cap on 3-4 DEs...okay. $50 mill of cap space to these 3 fellas. Works for me. Just better hope we never find a franchise QB and stay mediocre so we can keep them together!
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...so the Jets are going to tie up 1/3rd of the salary cap on 3-4 DEs...okay. $50 mill of cap space to these 3 fellas. Works for me. Just better hope we never find a franchise QB and stay mediocre so we can keep them together!
The BPA scenario was my point...and he can't pay 4 maybe 5 defensive lineman 12 mill a year...because those 3 are going to ask for it...Sheldon will ask for more...
To your point, he can play 11 defensive linemen if he wants. Maybe that's our long term goal and im missing Bowles and Macs vision. You're probably right.
Let's say that Mo gets a five year extension. His deal would run out after the 2020 season which would be the first year of a new deal for Williams. We would never be paying three defensive lineman big money at once. Richardson's new deal would start in 2018, and he would have two years of big earnings before Williams would get paid as well.
I understand your point, Super, thats why I've never given you crap over it, or anyone else who argued we should have passed on Williams. I'm just saying that theoretically you can make a sound argument for taking the BPA in this instance too. You can argue it either way. I can even argue why a super unit on the D-line is a good thing, even in a rotation. That would not be true if we had Aaron Rodgers and took a QB. In that case it would be indefensible in my view.
If you have Aaron Rodgers, your spot is up, and the BPA is Andrew Luck, teams are throwing multiple firsts, seconds, and thirds at you.
QB is a different animal. You know that. Yet you use this analogy anyway.
Or maybe the regime is smart enough to draft DL because one might hold out or be traded and Richardson must be thinkin', I don't know what the hell he's thinkin'!!
I used Rice and Irvin earlier, but this was a different poster. Call me lazy sometimes. My point is, if you have Ogden and Pace at OT, and Jake Long is BPA...how many OTs do you f'n need?
Call me lazy again, but awesome OTA quote from Bowles today:
Guys, Im trying to work. stop distracting me.
Interesting, Twitter is posting all Bowles and Mac's comments on Geno from Jan, Feb, and March...but nothing from Chan.
None of us know for sure, but I believe Geno is Chan's pick and Mac and Bowles left the ball in his court.
None of us know for sure, but I believe Geno is Chan's pick and Mac and Bowles left the ball in his court.
how many QBs can you play at a time? how many d-lineman can you play?
btw - i guess you are saying that jameis winston was the best player in this draft and marcus mariota was the 2nd best player. interesting...
I know you didn't ask me and I'm not speaking for Super, I'm sure he'll answer for himself, but IMO the only other viable alternative was Kevin White, otherwise you were going away from your value board, and if we drafted White we could be having the same argument. We already have two big outside receivers in Marshall and Decker, White makes three, and none of the three are slot WR's, so we have to get a little creative to get them all on the field and producing.
Thats why I'm not bent out of shape over taking Williams. Too me it was Williams or White, barring a trade it had to be one or the other in my view, and both created a similar dilemma, but with a little creativity you can make either pick work, so why not take the highest rated of the two on your board, which was probably Williams?
I was shocked that Williams was there and that we took him. The more I read about Wilkerson, the more I'm happy we chose Williams. If Wilkerson walks and we didn't have Williams then our DL would be an issue all of a sudden. We have the WR's and still got a top flight one in the draft so the Williams pick to me makes sense.
That's when Williams deal would run out also, right? 2020? 2021?
I think most of the draft community was shocked that Williams slid to the Jets. We talked about that possibility in this forum and I myself was largely dismissive. I insisted the Raiders were the firewall at 4 to insure he would never fall to 6. I didn't even see him making it to the Raiders, but if he did it was inconceivable too me that the Raiders would pass. Of course it was even more shocking when the Redskins passed too. In retrospect I can see taking Cooper who really is a terrific talent, but I'm stunned that the Redskins passed on Williams for an OG or RT in the TOP 5. I can see for a franchise LT, but if I'm taking a Guard or RT in that spot he better be John Hannah or Larry Allen! Who knows, maybe Scherff will turn into that kind of player, but I'm still shocked that they passed on Williams and he slid to the Jets.
That said, while I dismissed the possibility when we discussed it, I did say that in the unlikely event that Williams fell to 6 the Jets would have to take him, and I listed how we could use him if we took him, but I never saw it as a real possibility.
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Awesome article and thanks I can definitely see this like I said the less geno has to think about the better qb he will be. I still don't view him as a franchise qb though
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