Post Game Thread: Jets at Colts (Merged x2)
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Yeah but by the same token I was stunned that 7 out of the 9 ESPN analyst right before the game picked the Jets
Us guys who were critical of Fitz and wanted Geno, owe you pro Fitz guys an engraved apology
You don't owe us an apology for having an opinion that is different. I was a pro Geno fan until the punch. Fitz has won this team over and I love the chemistry and more importantly trust that he is building with Marshall and Decker.
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Discipline, discipline and more discipline. Rex never preached this. Bowles holds every one accountable. Two weeks in and Colon hasnt had one penalty. Breno had one yesterday, which was , IMHO a BS call.
In fairness, I'll give credit to my good friend Hank, a big Bears fan, and very savvy football fan, who told me he thought the Jets looked very good coming out of preseason, and said he thought they had a good chance of making the playoffs. And after week 1 he said he expected the Jets to win easily in Indy. And believe me, he isn't a guy who says these things because he thinks that's what his friend wants to hear. In the 30 years I have known him I've taken a lot of heat by being a Jet fan, what with all the very questionable moves the Jets have made over the years. But not this year. Poor guy, he told me how bad the Bears would be this season and I did my best to cheer him up, but that's going to get pretty hard to do if the Bears keep going the way they are.
Elias brought up a good point, how many catches did our TE's have last night ? Cumberland & Davis were silent. The only concern I have with Fitz is the long ball. He floats it up there for grabs in double coverage quite a bit. I think his strength is the dink & dunk passes, which a TE would help him out a lot. Get the TE more involved in the passing attack.
Go Jets...Cyborg
And I have to say that I am more encouraged than ever that Fitz reminds me of Jim Plunkett. Sure hope Fitz can do for the Jets the same thing Plunkett did for the Raiders at the end of his career.
The Jets wont get any sort of recognition until they beat the Pats. The media loves placing the Jets to the back burner as they always write as many negative stories about them.
IMHO, let them write us off. Let teams over look us. Let teams TALK. We've been on that side for about 5-6 years with Rex. Once the Jets have a team between the hashmarks, we will let them know who we are.
Bowles is a different animal. Very low profile but his words speak loud within the locker room. Discipline is what he preaches INDOORS. Not for the world to know. The NFL will notice this Jets team more and more as the season progresses. As of right now, The hell with New England... On to the Eagles. Strive for 3-0!
IMHO, let them write us off. Let teams over look us. Let teams TALK. We've been on that side for about 5-6 years with Rex. Once the Jets have a team between the hashmarks, we will let them know who we are.
Bowles is a different animal. Very low profile but his words speak loud within the locker room. Discipline is what he preaches INDOORS. Not for the world to know. The NFL will notice this Jets team more and more as the season progresses. As of right now, The hell with New England... On to the Eagles. Strive for 3-0!
Lol, I must admit Captain Checkdown looks great. So far it looks like this is the perfect scheme and team for him this year. He's doing exactly what the offense needs which gels perfectly with what the defense can do. Lets hope he keeps it going and as far as Bowles is concerned, class A chip. Thumbs up all around but I knew that would be the case. It was Fitz I was worried about but he's proving me wrong so far and I have no problem admitting that.
Your friend Hawk knows his football. Yes he does.
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There are 4 main factors for me that are making the Jets 2-0 and look like world beaters.
1) BETTER talent. This is the biggest reason why we are 2-0. Rex Ryan was asked to chicken salad out of chicken sh*t his last 4 seasons in NY. Todd Bowles, on the other hand, has great talent on his first Jets team. Brandon Marshall? Leonard Williams? Buster Skrine?
NONE of those guys were on last years team. And make no mistake about it, these guys have been HUGE difference makers between this and last season.
2) Turnovers - Now this could also go directly back to talent, but I don't believe it does. Rex Ryan, for all his coaching qualities, just could NEVER get turnovers. This just never made any sense to me. With defenses as talented as ours were, they should have gotten far more turnovers. This is omething that always annoyed me when Rex was in town.
Todd Bowles obviously has this defense looking for and sniffing out turnovers. What a huge difference it is between winning and losing when you have a positive turnover differential. The Jets are what? +8 right now? You're going to win a lot of ball games when you can have that huge of a disparity between giving up and taking the ball.
3) Penalties - The Jets are a much cleaner playing team. They commit far less penalties. Is it any wonder why Buffalo lost to NE after committing 14 penalties for 140 yards? That is called shooting yourself in the foot. This is also the complete OPPOSITE of the 2015 New York Jets.
The NYJ, in their first two games, have started with a few penalties in both games, but very quickly they have gotten their play under control in both of those games. They start to play textbook LEGAL football. Nobody should ever underestimate the huge impact this has had on this team and will have in the future.
4) QB - The NYJ have always had turnover machines as their QB's for the last 6 seasons. Now? they have a QB that is merely taking what the defense is giving him. he's doing a very nice job of protecting the ball. This is something Geno Smith could NEVER do and I truly hope that Fitz ends up staying the starter even after Geno is ready to go. This is a bright positive for the team as a whole.
1) BETTER talent. This is the biggest reason why we are 2-0. Rex Ryan was asked to chicken salad out of chicken sh*t his last 4 seasons in NY. Todd Bowles, on the other hand, has great talent on his first Jets team. Brandon Marshall? Leonard Williams? Buster Skrine?
NONE of those guys were on last years team. And make no mistake about it, these guys have been HUGE difference makers between this and last season.
2) Turnovers - Now this could also go directly back to talent, but I don't believe it does. Rex Ryan, for all his coaching qualities, just could NEVER get turnovers. This just never made any sense to me. With defenses as talented as ours were, they should have gotten far more turnovers. This is omething that always annoyed me when Rex was in town.
Todd Bowles obviously has this defense looking for and sniffing out turnovers. What a huge difference it is between winning and losing when you have a positive turnover differential. The Jets are what? +8 right now? You're going to win a lot of ball games when you can have that huge of a disparity between giving up and taking the ball.
3) Penalties - The Jets are a much cleaner playing team. They commit far less penalties. Is it any wonder why Buffalo lost to NE after committing 14 penalties for 140 yards? That is called shooting yourself in the foot. This is also the complete OPPOSITE of the 2015 New York Jets.
The NYJ, in their first two games, have started with a few penalties in both games, but very quickly they have gotten their play under control in both of those games. They start to play textbook LEGAL football. Nobody should ever underestimate the huge impact this has had on this team and will have in the future.
4) QB - The NYJ have always had turnover machines as their QB's for the last 6 seasons. Now? they have a QB that is merely taking what the defense is giving him. he's doing a very nice job of protecting the ball. This is something Geno Smith could NEVER do and I truly hope that Fitz ends up staying the starter even after Geno is ready to go. This is a bright positive for the team as a whole.
Agreed 100000000 percent. After the shalacking the Colts took last week, you would have thought they would have beaten anyone in the there home opener the very next week by 30. But the didn't and not only did they not beat us but it wasn't even a contest. We should have beat the Colts by 6-10 more points at least but our offense was stuck in mud until the last two drives in the 4th quarter. The Jets handed it to the Colts in their home opener after the Colts were beat bad the week before, this was a very impressive win and much more impressive then the Bills lose.
I don't think the O-line have any penalties last night...oh except for that after the play one on Breno...
Respect due and respect paid to. You called it and props to you sir. I was the biggest Fitz hater and the biggest Geno supporter I will admit. I will admit I was wrong to you guys, except for one person I will never admit it to. Lets all hope Fitz keeps it going. This is only the 2nd game and they have 14 more to go plus the playoffs.
Rich Cimini
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Calvin Pace, a Jet since 2008, was asked after last night's win the last time he felt this good about the team. "2010, with LT and JT," he said, referring to LaDainian Tomlinson and Jason Taylor. "This is close to that type of feeling." The Jets reached the AFC Championship that year.
ESPN Staff Writer
Calvin Pace, a Jet since 2008, was asked after last night's win the last time he felt this good about the team. "2010, with LT and JT," he said, referring to LaDainian Tomlinson and Jason Taylor. "This is close to that type of feeling." The Jets reached the AFC Championship that year.
Last night's game was encouraging, to say the least. I liked the strategy to throw the ball once it was clear that the Colts wanted to erase Ivory. They gambled on beating Fitz, and lost. Marshall and Decker can be lethal. Fitzpatrick is what he is: a "good enough" QB who will occasionally throw a pick, but can make all the short to intermediate throws, and can be successful with protection and good receivers.
Defensively, the secondary is gonna be very good this year. I loved how aggressive they were. Skrine is really looking like a great pickup covering the slot. That's so important theses days with so many 3-4 WR sets around the league.
The Eagles better be ready.
Defensively, the secondary is gonna be very good this year. I loved how aggressive they were. Skrine is really looking like a great pickup covering the slot. That's so important theses days with so many 3-4 WR sets around the league.
The Eagles better be ready.
Given the amount of changes on the roster, a new GM, and coach, the chances of things gelling from the start are rare. I'll say this much. The true character of a team will come to light once faced with adversity. How they respond to that will determine the success. What I do appreciate is the consistency after wins. That being not too high or too low. It's a long grind. But for the time being it's definitely a change from what or who we had before. I'd like to add that those on the outside judged our success based on Geno running the offense. My question is what our record would be if Fitz wasn't our starter? This might have been the blessing we took advantage of in spite of injury that took place. Create more turnovers than giveaways. I don't think Geno would have only two at this point. Furthermore, I don't think Geno would have won last night.