He's not going to change his prediction Sack, he's a Patriot fan from Maine pretending to be a Jet fan.
Go Jets...Cyborg
Predict the 2015 Jets record
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He's not going to change his prediction Sack, he's a Patriot fan from Maine pretending to be a Jet fan.
Go Jets...Cyborg
I think this is a 7-9, 8-8 team with the current QB situation, based on what we know now. If the QB, whoever that is, is able to be a top 15 QB in the league, middle of the road, a 25TD 15INT type of season, with this defense and a good running game, the Jets can win 9 or 10 games if they stay healthy. If the QB play is below that, I think they go 7-9, 8-8. Still an improvement from last year. So much of this depends on whether Geno develops, or Fitzpatrick can come in and play really well. I think Petty/Simms ride the bench unless one of them really blows it up in training camp. If that is the case, then the whole dynamic changes. But I think Geno wins the job.
How about 17 TDs and 8 INTs, 63.1% completions, 95.3 passer rating? That's better than the TD/INT ratio you cited, and a top-10 QB in passer rating.
Those are Fitzpatrick's numbers from last year. And his best seasons came under Gailey.
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sg3
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Rex will have sunk the Bills to the basement by then with his Matt Cassel/Ground and Pound plus stupid Wildcat offense long before then
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ucrenegade
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If every one stays healthy and Fitzpatrick starts this is a 10-6 team if geno starts I would say 9-7 with a possibility for 10-6.
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ucrenegade
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Some of you need to research gailey more and how he was with as a oc. Look at the work he did with lesser talented QB's than geno.
I hate playing this prediction game. It always feels like I pick them to do well and they flop by 5-6 games from what I thought. I'm starting to feel like its my fault it happened, lol. Only year I can remember predicting correct was Geno's first year. I said if Sanchez was the QB, they win 4-6 games max. If Geno was the QB, they win 6-8 and they won 8. Even though I hate doing this I always fall into the trap so here it goes, I voted 11-5.
Whether its Geno or Fitz, all the QB has to do is give us average QB play and the o-line do their job and this is a 10-11 win team this year easy. The D will be lights out. The running game should be also, whether its by committee or one of them stepping up to be the primary RB. The D should realistically keep us in 10-11 games alone. The D might even win us about 7-8 games.
So if the QB and o-line do their job and not lose games for us, winning another 2-3 shouldn't be that big of a task. I love how sg3 says with Fitz they will win 11 games, with Simms or Petty they win 3 games less (when Simms will most likely not even make this team). With any other QB (NAMELY GENO), they lose 5 games or more. Just to damn funny but I will leave at that and I refuse to get into another meaningless QB debate.
Whether its Geno or Fitz, all the QB has to do is give us average QB play and the o-line do their job and this is a 10-11 win team this year easy. The D will be lights out. The running game should be also, whether its by committee or one of them stepping up to be the primary RB. The D should realistically keep us in 10-11 games alone. The D might even win us about 7-8 games.
So if the QB and o-line do their job and not lose games for us, winning another 2-3 shouldn't be that big of a task. I love how sg3 says with Fitz they will win 11 games, with Simms or Petty they win 3 games less (when Simms will most likely not even make this team). With any other QB (NAMELY GENO), they lose 5 games or more. Just to damn funny but I will leave at that and I refuse to get into another meaningless QB debate.
How can people predict the Jets record for the upcoming season without seeing anyone play yet? There are so many questions: How will the team respond to the new coaching staff and verbiage? How will the injured players recover? How long will it take for the OL to gel? Will the qbs grasp the new offense?
With all due respect to the posters who responded, at this point you're just guessing and it has no bearing on the reality of the upcoming season. Maybe after a few preseason games and training camp it might be a better time to ask this question?
With all due respect to the posters who responded, at this point you're just guessing and it has no bearing on the reality of the upcoming season. Maybe after a few preseason games and training camp it might be a better time to ask this question?
Sadly I have to agree with you. We are all diehard Jets fans and some of us fall prey to this every year pretty much. Without looking at the real reality of the situation. I myself predicted 11-5 but none of us can really gauge this until 2-3 pre-season games at least have been played. Maybe even 2-3 regular season games. Guess this is just the fun but agony in all this anyway.
I'd take that for sure. But that wasn't for the entire season right? But if he put up those kind of numbers for an entire season, yeah, the Jets could win 10 games.
I'm not into predicting records this early in the offseason, but I'll say this. In 2009 & 2010, we had a qb ranked in the bottom five in the league and won 9 & 11 games respectively. In 2013, we had a qb ranked in the bottom five and won 8 games. Our overall team is similar this year to those 2009/2010 teams (not quite as good on the offensive line..... at least on paper, but much better in the front seven on defense and equal or better in the secondary). I also like the new coaching staff and the accountability/discipline that they'll bring.
He put those up until he got hurt. That is his stat line for last year.
I said 9-7, based mainly on the huge improvements to the defense. We got stronger up front, which isn't even fair (Leonard Williams), and our secondary is going to be very tough to throw on. I think Calvin Pryor is going to be much more effective in his natural position.
Offensively, we picked up a #1 WR to slide beside Decker, as good a #2 as they come. If Devin Smith contributes even a little to the long ball, look the hell out. Amaro, Ivory, Kerley, and Stacey round out a solid supporting cast. The o-line is good enough. Not great, but better than last year. I'm liking the Carpenter and Harrison pickups. The only question becomes who our QB will be. That's a big question. But I think Fitzpatrick ultimately will be taking the Jets into the playoffs by year's end, as a wildcard.
Offensively, we picked up a #1 WR to slide beside Decker, as good a #2 as they come. If Devin Smith contributes even a little to the long ball, look the hell out. Amaro, Ivory, Kerley, and Stacey round out a solid supporting cast. The o-line is good enough. Not great, but better than last year. I'm liking the Carpenter and Harrison pickups. The only question becomes who our QB will be. That's a big question. But I think Fitzpatrick ultimately will be taking the Jets into the playoffs by year's end, as a wildcard.
As solid as those QB stats were, (actually slightly better than Flacco's), they still didn't help HOU get past a (9-7) record last year.
Still they were much improved under Fitz from the (2-14) team they were the year before, with Schaub/Keenum throwing the rock.
Frankly a lot of Jets fans remember a fumbling-bumbling Fitzpatrick from his 4 year stint in BUF behind one of the most decimated by injury OLs that team had seen in some time.
It's not really fair to judge him solely by that, but that is in fact what forms the basis of MOST NFL fans' impressions of Fitzpatrick as a QB.
He's an older, wiser, QB than when he came into the league in '05 & if one goes through his individual games throughout his decade-long career, there are some rather brilliant moments of play in there.
In 89 career starts he's had a 90+ QBR in 27 games, a 100+ QBR in 17 - in spite of being on some horrifically bad teams in St.L, BUF, and TEN.
Do NOT underestimate this QB's intelligence and understanding of the game.
He is one of the smartest QBs in the NFL right now, and with a decent team finally backing him up, HYATT™ expects many good things from his leadership this year - so many in fact, that he may end up being considered for MVP if he can turn the lowly (4-12) Jets into a (12-4) Super Bowl contender by January.
Lest you think HYATT™ lost all of his marbles playing terrorist bomber over the winter, ask yourself how good everything ELSE on the Jets team is now, OTHER THAN the QB spot.
OL - Weaknesses at RT & LG - which may end this year - but otherwise competitive with most OLs around the league.
RB/FB - good, not great, but competent enough to keep Safetys honest and in the box regularly, instead of deep in coverage or blitzing Fitz's face.
Receiving corps - Marshall, Decker, Kerley, Smith, Amaro, Davis, & Ivory beats the crap out of 2013's;
Jeremy Kerley 43/523
David Nelson 36/423
Bilal Powell 36/272
Kellen Winslow 31/388
Jeff Cumberland 26/398
Stephen Hill 24/342
Santonio Holmes 23/456
doesn't it?
Frankly, the Jets have a HELLA quintuple threat going in Marshall, Decker, Kerley, Amaro, & Smith, if Smith is even halfway to being a contributor as a rookie & HYATT™ will put those 5 up against just about any other 5-deep in the league.
DL - is not the Jets DL the best in football right now, and they just added yet the best player in the 2015 draft to that depth? (This just blows HYATT™'s mind, incidentally, how quickly the Jets can flip-flop between base 3-4 and inside-out 4-man fronts now.)
LB - except for slow-ass Pace and out of place Q, the LB corps is very good against the run, has a couple of LBs who've proven capable of coverage a bit in Davis & Henderson, and one of the best veteran defensive signal callers in the league in Harris. The younger rookies should help with both depth in rotation and on special teams coverages.
Maudlin will definitely be a contributor as well.
Secondary - Pryor, Jarrett, Allen, Cro, Walls, Milliner, Gilchrist, Skrine, & REVIS ISLAND?
Sweet Bay-bay Jay-ZUZ, what MORE could a defense ask for?
Name a single team in the league that's 9 deep and as capable as THAT list.
The Jets are going to have a VERY hard time paring that list down to 7.
(Walls, at least, is probably the odd man out.)
HYATT™ doesn't even know what to think about the bigger DBs laying around, (Brown, Lewis, & Miles), just praying for an injury so they can get a shot at cutting that lineup in training camp.
Buh-BYEEEEE McDougle, we hardly ken ye.
K - Folk, which isn't 4X SB winner Vinatieri great, but which is plenty good enough to win games in a pinch when needed.
All that's left is the QB spot, and HYATT™ has already given you HIS opinion on that matter.
2 years ago HYATT™ scolded Jets fans about worrying what happened in 2013 & 2014, as they were foregone conclusion loser seasons with the team being strapped by the Snatchez/HolMEs contracts fiasco.
HYATT™ PREDICTED that in 2015 the Jets would once again be contenders for a return trip to the Big dance.
All that's left is for NostraHYATT™ to sit back, wait out the 2015 season, and collect his accolades at the awards banquet in February.
I picked us to go 8-8, which isn't as optimistic as some, but 4 more wins from a first time head coach and DC is a compliment and reasonable if I was Mac and working with Bowles on his goals. Expecting him to have 6-10 game turnaround when he has never done this before seems overly optimistic to me. Could happen though.
However, regarding your point, doesn't that go both ways? How will any team in the NFL, literally any of them, score on this defense when we have a 4th quarter lead and know they are going to pass? Jets have 3, maybe 4 or 5 with Milliner and Gilchrist, that would be #1 CBs on the Pats...our #3-5 CBs are better than many team's #1 CB and our defensive line on known passing plays are going to be tough for any oline, including the mid 90s Cowboys oline, to stop. How do you account for teams not being able to score when you make the above QB point against us...you have to consider our offense will only need a couple TDs and a couple FGs per game...and if we get that, most games will be double digit wins...
I just feel that while our QB won't be anything special, I expect to see some of the worst QB play in the NFL weekly against our defense...
Sack, those #'s are realistic for him. Especially, since he won't have to wing it (which he can) all over the yard to climb back in games...I said 11-5. Mainly, because of Fitz. The man produced with Stevie Johnson as a main target. That's tough. How much easier is the game going to be for him with Decker, Marshall, Jace, and Cumberland.
I am seeing a lot of games where we jump ahead, pound CI, ZS, and BP to the finish with our DLine pinning their ears back with Batman & Robin waiting for arrant passes.
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BigDan
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15-1 A loss to the Redskins.
Gotta love that only 1 of 23 of what is probably one of the most fatalistic fan bases in sports has this team with a losing record after being one of the least effective teams in all of football in 2014
One of the beauties of sports is that statistical anomalies is the norm. That means that even the Jags can go 16-0. If there is anyone here who can positively know what the results will be, then get your a$$es to Vegas and make a fortune.
This thread in general surprised me in a most positive way, but Big Dan whoever you are, you are my hero of the day
It's going to be a few loooong months waiting to see this team play
Bull shit. Im going to that game...I went to the game last time they played too.
We killed Rex Grossman and Company...