Petty does not make it to the PS.... Trust me Geno gets cut..
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Petty does not make it to the PS.... Trust me Geno gets cut..
Best case is that Geno looks great in preseason and someone gives us a 4th round pick for him. I guess if that happened, there might be a temptation to keep him. I think with the year that he sat and with Gailey as the OC, he might be serviceable.
Hell any draft pick would be nice for him... So yea that will be the best case scenario.... I honestly don't think the Jets want to split time between 4 QBS though.... I think they will want hackenberg and Petty to get as many reps as possible
Don't be so sure. Petty looked very uninspiring in camp last year. So unless he's progressed leaps and bounds and can handle back up duties if Fitz signs, Smith will be the back up and Petty will be odd man out...
To put it another way...If the Jets thought Petty was tracking upward and ready to take on 2nd string duties and possibly start in 2017, why would they have drafted Hackenberg who basically will be on the same developmental timeline as Petty? Hackenberg is probably 2 years away from being ready. So it seems to me that by drafting Hackenberg, the Jets must feel Petty's ceiling is much lower, so he would be the odd man out...
I don't believe the drafting of Hackenberg has anything to do with how the team feels about either Geno or Petty. I know this contradicts the widely accepted assumption that Hackenberg=Maccagnan hates someone on the roster. But I believe that Macc understands the importance of the QB position. Get as many as you can and let them fight it out in training camp. May the best 3 win.
Maccagnan is trying to find The Guy. Fitz is the bridge to 2017. One of the other three will ideally be the answer. I personally hope it's either Hackenberg or Petty.
Maccagnan is trying to find The Guy. Fitz is the bridge to 2017. One of the other three will ideally be the answer. I personally hope it's either Hackenberg or Petty.
This whole notion of cutting Bryce Petty makes me laugh.
So Mike Maccagnan would rather cut ties with a player:
1-who he drafted
2-Stated it would take time to develop
3-Learned under a true proffesional on how to be an NFL proffesional.
4-Learned under a QB who knows the playbook inside out
over
1-A guy who wasn't drafted by this regime
2-A wasted pick who continuosly squanders his opportunity
3-A QB in which got punched, supposedly the leader of the offense, And the majority of the team sided with the player that eventually signed up in Buffalo.
Yea, Mac will totally choose Geno Smith over Bryce Petty..............TOTALLY
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So Mike Maccagnan would rather cut ties with a player:
1-who he drafted
2-Stated it would take time to develop
3-Learned under a true proffesional on how to be an NFL proffesional.
4-Learned under a QB who knows the playbook inside out
over
1-A guy who wasn't drafted by this regime
2-A wasted pick who continuosly squanders his opportunity
3-A QB in which got punched, supposedly the leader of the offense, And the majority of the team sided with the player that eventually signed up in Buffalo.
Yea, Mac will totally choose Geno Smith over Bryce Petty..............TOTALLY
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LOLz outstanding post D!! i did a bit of lurking on another jet board today & i was stunned how many people believe there's a real chance petty gets cut.. anything is possible but i don't believe for a nanosecond it happens to keep smith of all people..
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The punch thing is overblown nonsense. IK Enkepali was a mindless thug. I don't give a rats ass about debt. IK broke his jaw, and people who blame Geno for that are reaching for reasons to bash him. IK was 100% to blame, and he belongs with big mouth Rex. If Geno owes you money, there's better ways of handling that. This isn't Goodfellas for Christsakes!
If you want to criticize Geno's inconsistent play, that's fair game. But everything else is media hyperbole on repeat.
Maccagnan has made it clear that he doesn't think the same way about Geno that some overzealous fans do.
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Normally, I would already be saying, "BYE BYE GENO" and be happier about it than a pig in sh*t. The ONLY thing keeping the Jets from cutting Geno's useless POS a$$ is that they haven't managed to resign Fitz. I would be surprised if before we are aware of Fitz resigning, we already know that Geno was cut.
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What a crock of sh*t. IK was 100% to blame my A$$. So I guess Geno gets to stiff one of the players for a charity appearance he agreed to appear in? It's no wonder why you suck as a poster, you side with a$$ holes that cause problems with the team when they are actually supposed to be LEADERS.
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You are 100% correct, not only by what you saying but also as a general decency. Geno never walked the plank for the fight nonsense. IK paid his penance by getting cut. Geno got out of trouble for the fight scot free only because there were salary cap implications that prevented the front office from cutting him as well. Now? There's no obligation any more.
It is 100% GUARANTEED there's NO way Geno keeps his job if the Jets resign Fitz. NO way. Mac is all in with Bryce and Hack. He won't lose a seconds sleep if he cut Geno. In fact, I'd bet money if the truth were known he was probably giddy about cutting Geno.
i don't think that i'm going out on a limb saying this post just might be fundamentally inaccurate on so many documented levels..... but what do i know.. aside from what i've researched anyway............................
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i'm not sure i agree with that. seems to me drafting hackenberg is bringing in more competition for the QB position. now obviously if petty set the world on fire, they probably wouldn't have used such a high pick on another QB. but i don't read using a 2nd on a QB as meaning they are more or less moving on from the idea petty can develop into a starting QB. just that they felt it was better to have 2 guys to develop (3 if you include geno), then just petty (and geno)
I don't think you watched camp last year.... If Petty was so bad at camp there is no way the FO cuts Flynn and Josh Johnson to have Petty be the backup for the first 3 games of the season last year.... If he was so uninspiring he would have been put on the practice squad last year not the back up while Geno was out and would not have stayed on the roster all year....
Patullo, Gailey, Macc and Bowles all said he made hug strides in camp last year and look forward to seeing his progress this year.
Is it not common sense to read thru all the hyperbole and look at the fact that he was the backup to start the season behind Fitz who was coming off a broken leg himself and say the Jets FO and CS must have been impressed with him to have that kind of trust thru the first 3 games. Uninspiring is almost a laughable comment when you look at the situation.
Everyone in the media world said he needs 2-3 years to sit and learn before he can play in the NFL.
He comes from the spread offense he isn't NFL ready to take a snap from center and read a defense on his own.
Fans say he's a 4th rd pick he is a project.. You say he had an uninspiring camp.
so Let me repeat:
THE Jets Organization Deemed him good enough to be one hit away from playing and starting NFL games over 2 EXPERIENCED VETERANS.
Sorry but that action alone speaks volumes to me about his progress last year and what the organization thinks of Petty...
That is an easy answer as well... but I'll start with a question... Why did the Cowboys draft Aikman #1 overall only to draft Steve Walsh with the supplemental #1 draft pick 3 months later and give up a first rounder the next year.... Who does that? Or who drafts Phillip rivers after Drew Brees starts clicking and playing some great QB play ?
Oh a team that wants to load up on talent at the most important position on an NFL team and one that wants to create competition so the best player rises to the top..... IDK if it'll be Petty or Hackenberg that become great or both...
Macc said so much yesterday on NFL Radio.... He like the upside of both and he wants serious competition at the QB position... I am all in.
Why is everyone so quick to assume they don't like Petty.. Another thing Macc talked about yesterday on the Radio and pretty much laughed it off
Look, I'm not a Petty basher and I certainly hope he grows into a bona-fide NFL qb. But I was in camp last year and he didn't impress. Now that is obviously from a very narrow perspective, and you and I don't get to see him on a day to day basis. He could be improving immensely. And a lot of my argument is admittedly playing Devil's advocate. I'm certainly not a Geno fan, nor do I think he has a future with the NY Jets. I guess my point was more in connecting the dots. I still feel that if the front office thought Petty was a star in the making, Hackenberg does not get drafted with the 2nd pick. And if they don't think Petty can play this year, then Geno is an asset they won't cut until they are convinced that if and when Fitz signs, Petty is the better option than Geno if Fitz goes down.
Oh and by the way, with your example about the Chargers drafting Phillip Rivers when they had Drew Brees "playing great football". If memory serves, Brees had suffered a serious shoulder injury and the Chargers were worried that Brees would not be the same player afterwards. So they drafted Rivers. Brees didn't become Brees until he went to New Orleans...
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Got your point. <Makes sense.. Definitely see it from the Devils Adovcate standpoint.... And you are right we certainly have small dose of what happens everyday and what the FO and CS see. My argument was they saw enough to chance one play and Petty being the starter.. I feel like that speaks volumes.
And you are right and wrong on Brees. He wasn't playing Great when they drafted Rivers. But Brees did win the QB job after Rivers was drafted, had a great season in 2004, and kept Rivers on the bench in 2005 aas well till he suffered that shoulder injury in a contract year and the Chargers let him walk for nothing... With ttht said if he didn't get injured the talk was already starting about trading Rivers since Brees was blossoming into a Franchise QB. And the point is 2 high potential QBs can create competition to make them both better... I think we are hoping for that by following the formula of drafting talented high ceiling QBs till A)you hit on one and you still draft one to have a pipeline B) protect you from injury C) Protect you from FA and having to overpay or even pay market value if your starter isn't a Tom Brady , an Aaron Rodgers etc....
Thanks for the clarification. I do remember the Chargers letting Brees go after the shoulder injury because they were not sure he could regain his previous abilities. I wonder what the Chargers would have done with Rivers if Brees didn't get injured...