Shefty tweet Bridgewater to Saints

[jets82]

I wanted to holdout till the trade deadline if necessary, then perhaps get a 2 if some team lost their starting QB

That said, I can live with the 3, even though its almost certainly going to be a late 3, but I don’t see why we had to send back a 6

Just as a matter of principle, I would not have sent back a 6

If that was a deal killer, then so be it.

Agreed

 

[butterscotch]

You really think this is the basis for trading Bridgewater?

Do you guys watch the X Files?

No the choice is the reason but for the timing getting a mob hit on Bridgewater now is the reason.

 

[SackExchange]

I wanted to holdout till the trade deadline if necessary, then perhaps get a 2 if some team lost their starting QB

That said, I can live with the 3, even though its almost certainly going to be a late 3, but I don’t see why we had to send back a 6

Just as a matter of principle, I would not have sent back a 6

If that was a deal killer, then so be it.

I think the sixth is basically an insurance policy, in the event Bridgewater walks for more money next March. It was either give a sixth, or make the third contingent on him being a Saint in 2019. I'd rather give the sixth and not lose the third if Bridgewater signs elsewhere next offseason.

 

[cheaterhater]

This pick most likely will be more like a 4th rounder because the Saints should be pretty good. Bart Scott kept calling it a 4th rounder for that reason yesterday on wfan. I agree

 

[cheaterhater]

You really think this is the basis for trading Bridgewater?

Do you guys watch the X Files?

I was listening to WFAN while posting yesterday. The 2 reasons that I posted here are from listening to callers on wfan. I don't believe they are the basis for the trade but they very well could be the reason for the timing of the trade.

the 2 reasons being:

1. This had to have been done for one reason and one reason only and that is so if Darnold has a couple bad weeks that the fans can't start screaming for Teddy. and
2. They may have wanted the extra pick now use in a big trade. i.e. Mack

If one of these is not the reason, then I don't understand the timing. Play Darnold, let Bridgewater sit on the bench until the trade deadline. Worse case we get a 4th rounder for him. Best case we get something similar to the Bradford trade which would be huge. Can you really see his value going down before the trade deadline if he doesn't play and doesn't get hurt?

 

[hobson54]

This pick most likely will be more like a 4th rounder because the Saints should be pretty good. Bart Scott kept calling it a 4th rounder for that reason yesterday on wfan. I agree

no, it is a likely a late 3rd rounder. it is silly to call it a 4th rounder. and the 3rd round is usually more than 32 picks given that's the first round when comp picks are awarded. last year the saints drafted 27th in the 3rd round. there were 9 more picks until the 4th round started.

 

[hobson54]

I was listening to WFAN while posting yesterday. The 2 reasons that I posted here are from listening to callers on wfan. I don't believe they are the basis for the trade but they very well could be the reason for the timing of the trade.

the 2 reasons being:

1. This had to have been done for one reason and one reason only and that is so if Darnold has a couple bad weeks that the fans can't start screaming for Teddy. and
2. They may have wanted the extra pick now use in a big trade. i.e. Mack

If one of these is not the reason, then I don't understand the timing. Play Darnold, let Bridgewater sit on the bench until the trade deadline. Worse case we get a 4th rounder for him. Best case we get something similar to the Bradford trade which would be huge. Can you really see his value going down before the trade deadline if he doesn't play and doesn't get hurt?

except you need to hold a roster spot for him and his salary becomes fully guaranteed the first game. so if no one comes calling for a trade (and not every team that loses it's starting QB will be willing to shell out a "bradford like ransom" for TB), then you are paying $16 million to your two backup QBs

 

[cheaterhater]

no, it is a likely a late 3rd rounder. it is silly to call it a 4th rounder. and the 3rd round is usually more than 32 picks given that's the first round when comp picks are awarded. last year the saints drafted 27th in the 3rd round. there were 9 more picks until the 4th round started.

I'm repeating what Bart Scott said on WFAN yesterday here. Bart said that there is a huge difference between the players in the beginning of the 3rd round and the ones at the end so he kept referring to it as a 4th rounder. As a 52 year old life long Jet fan, I have learned that if you use the "glass half empty" approach when talking about the Jets that you will almost always be right so I would tend to agree with Bart

 

[butterscotch]

I'm repeating what Bart Scott said on WFAN yesterday here. Bart said that there is a huge difference between the players in the beginning of the 3rd round and the ones at the end so he kept referring to it as a 4th rounder. As a 52 year old life long Jet fan, I have learned that if you use the "glass half empty" approach when talking about the Jets that you will almost always be right so I would tend to agree with Bart

Add me to that list too

 

[cheaterhater]

except you need to hold a roster spot for him and his salary becomes fully guaranteed the first game. so if no one comes calling for a trade (and not every team that loses it's starting QB will be willing to shell out a "bradford like ransom" for TB), then you are paying $16 million to your two backup QBs

so here's what Bart said on this, if I remember correctly. 5 million is nothing to a football team. It's going to get spent anyway. He would have taken the chance and kept Bridgewater longer. I agree

He also said that if they traded him now to use the extra pick in a package to make a big time trade that he would then change his mind and be ok with it. I agree with that too. Although I prefer to build through the draft as much as possible rather than dole out a zillion dollars to one player unless he's the last piece of the puzzle or a young elite offensive lineman That said , if the Jets go after Mack and get him and he drops brady good and hard regularly then it will be worth it

I don't want to win because brady and belichick are gone. I want to beat them while they are still here

 

[Gramoah]

so here's what bart said on this, if i remember correctly. 5 million is nothing to a football team. It's going to get spent anyway. He would have taken the chance and kept bridgewater longer. I agree

he also said that if they traded him now to use the extra pick in a package to make a big time trade that he would then change his mind and be ok with it. I agree with that too. Although i prefer to build through the draft as much as possible rather than dole out a zillion dollars to one player unless he's the last piece of the puzzle or a young elite offensive lineman that said , if the jets go after mack and get him and he drops brady good and hard regularly then it will be worth it

i don't want to win because brady and belichick are gone. I want to beat them while they are still here

me too ! ! ! !

 

[SackExchange]

Here's the thing. If you keep Teddy, you are banking on two things.

1. He will stay healthy.
2. Another QB won't, and his value will rise.

Would you take a third rounder now, or the possibility of a second rounder that can turn back into a third if nobody gets hurt, and absolutely zero if Teddy gets hurt?

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Here's the thing. If you keep Teddy, you are banking on two things.

1. He will stay healthy.
2. Another QB won't, and his value will rise.

Would you take a third rounder now, or the possibility of a second rounder that can turn back into a third if nobody gets hurt, and absolutely zero if Teddy gets hurt?

Don't misunderstand me. I like the 3, even if its a late 3. I was hoping for a 2, but I made it perfectly clear that I'll take the 3 and be content with it. My only objection was in sending back a 6. If the Saints wanted to be stubborn about it and allow that 6 to kill the deal, then I would have been prepared to walk away and either wait for them to drop their demands for a 6 in return and just give us the 3, or go into the season with Teddy and take the risk on getting a better deal before the deadline. In every negotiation there has to be place in your mind where you know you are willing to walk away. For me that place would have been a 3 for Teddy with no further compensation, not even a 7.

I would have started by asking for a 2, knowing I'd accept a 3, but willing to walk away if they insisted on any further compensation.

 

[cheaterhater]

Here's the thing. If you keep Teddy, you are banking on two things.

1. He will stay healthy.
2. Another QB won't, and his value will rise.

Would you take a third rounder now, or the possibility of a second rounder that can turn back into a third if nobody gets hurt, and absolutely zero if Teddy gets hurt?

Hey, I'm just blabbing on a Jet fan site. If I were running the team I may think differntly. But as someone running off his mouth on a fan site I'll quote Tom Cruise in Risky Business. "Sometimes you gotta say what the .uck"

Yes it would be a dice roll but, Teddy wouldn't be playing except in practice so it's unlikely he gets hurt. I just think I would have liked to see if we could have gotten more. And I don't think we get less then a 3 at the trade deadline or a week before it. So it would be hard to lose, I would think.

The 5 million, I hate to say, because if I got 5 million I'd be set for life, but to a football team 5 mil is nothing.

The 3, which is more a 4 , is fine, I just would have waited it out because the likelihood of getting less then a 3 later is unlikely, in my opinion anyway

 

[cheaterhater]

And, yeah, the extra 6 while pretty meaningless, is annoying

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

And, yeah, the extra 6 while pretty meaningless, is annoying

Thats the perfect word for it ... annoying.

Its so petty that if the Saints wanted to make that 6 a deal killer, like I said above, I would have walked over it.

 

[SackExchange]

Don't misunderstand me. I like the 3, even if its a late 3. I was hoping for a 2, but I made it perfectly clear that I'll take the 3 and be content with it. My only objection was in sending back a 6. If the Saints wanted to be stubborn about it and allow that 6 to kill the deal, then I would have been prepared to walk away and either wait for them to drop their demands for a 6 in return and just give us the 3, or go into the season with Teddy and take the risk on getting a better deal before the deadline. In every negotiation there has to be place in your mind where you know you are willing to walk away. For me that place would have been a 3 for Teddy with no further compensation, not even a 7.

I would have started by asking for a 2, knowing I'd accept a 3, but willing to walk away if they insisted on any further compensation.

I get the argument, but I wouldn't let a sixth get in the way or receiving a quality pick (top 3 rounds) for what amounts to nothing (offseason one-year signing).

 

[SackExchange]

Hey, I'm just blabbing on a Jet fan site. If I were running the team I may think differntly. But as someone running off his mouth on a fan site I'll quote Tom Cruise in Risky Business. "Sometimes you gotta say what the .uck"

Yes it would be a dice roll but, Teddy wouldn't be playing except in practice so it's unlikely he gets hurt. I just think I would have liked to see if we could have gotten more. And I don't think we get less then a 3 at the trade deadline or a week before it. So it would be hard to lose, I would think.

The 5 million, I hate to say, because if I got 5 million I'd be set for life, but to a football team 5 mil is nothing.

The 3, which is more a 4 , is fine, I just would have waited it out because the likelihood of getting less then a 3 later is unlikely, in my opinion anyway

It's not really a 4. It's likely a later 3. It's only a 4 if both the Saints win the Super Bowl and the NFL changes the rules and puts compensatory picks above the Super Bowl champion.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

We went from no 2nd round pick, to two 3rd
round picks overnight. Those can be used as trade chips to either move up in the draft or trade for a player like...I don’t know...Mack or Fowler?

 

[cheaterhater]

I get the argument, but I wouldn't let a sixth get in the way or receiving a quality pick (top 3 rounds) for what amounts to nothing (offseason one-year signing).

I can't remember... what round was Brady drafted in?