I agree, but that's not what i'm reading in that last paragraph i was referring to.
The Jets are pursuing Fitzpatrick, they are not just giving him a blank check. They've fixed a certain amount to him and are, as of now, sticking to their guns.
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I agree, but that's not what i'm reading in that last paragraph i was referring to.
The Jets are pursuing Fitzpatrick, they are not just giving him a blank check. They've fixed a certain amount to him and are, as of now, sticking to their guns.
LOLz i'm a bit confused but i believe for the most part, we are on the same page..
Shouting in CAPS makes a person's point more valid. You didn't get the memo? LOL.
I want Fitz back as much as the next fan. But if he's holding out for guaranteed money in the 10-12 million range through years 2-3, he can go sign somewhere else. I'll roll with Geno for 2016, and see what we've got with Hack/Petty in 2017. Fitz was good last year, until he shit the bed up in Buffalo. That was a big game meltdown.
This morning Cimini was on the radio, he and the host were both stating that if Fitzpatrick is not in camp by, they said, the Redskin preseason game Aug. 19th then they have to go all in on Geno. They said it would be unfair to Geno and the rest of the team to have the Fitzpatrick saga hanging over the Jets past that time.
Sorry, i can't remember if it was the Fan or ESPN. It was one of 'em though.
Sorry, i can't remember if it was the Fan or ESPN. It was one of 'em though.
I say that is the final deadline, but I start dropping the offer by $2M per week until that deadline.
I'm with you.
Coach Todd Bowles thinks Geno Smith can be the Jets’ starter.
"I think Geno can be a good starter, but he’s got to prove it in training camp like everybody else," Bowles said. "He’s been in the system a year. We’ll see what he does." It’s not more than coachspeak, but the Jets have thrown support behind Smith all offseason. Despite a standstill in contract talks, Ryan Fitzpatrick remains likely to be the Week 1 starter.
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"I think Geno can be a good starter, but he’s got to prove it in training camp like everybody else," Bowles said. "He’s been in the system a year. We’ll see what he does." It’s not more than coachspeak, but the Jets have thrown support behind Smith all offseason. Despite a standstill in contract talks, Ryan Fitzpatrick remains likely to be the Week 1 starter.
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Lol. "He sucks and that's that" is not actually an argument of any sort. It is, however, a fair summation of your opinion.
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I'm thinking the sbsolute drop dead cut off point should be Juky 27th or 3 days from now. It's time for Fitz to sh*t or get off the pot.
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Yes it is as a matter of fact, but HOW does that make it wrong? Every single shred of evidence about Geno points to him being an idiot on and off the football field.
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I don't disagree with any of this, but HOW does that not make what I just posted, wrong? You said, "Woody is privy to everything Mac does". I responded with, "Woody was privy to everything John Idzik did" and STILL be the fan base signed his own death warrant and Woody LISTENED. So you're wrong in that liner of thinking very clearly. End of subject.
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And what about all of the areas where the author points out that Geno SUCKS and BTW it is on;ly the vadst area of responsibility that goes with the job, or does that not fit YOUR narrative?
Yes,he was privy to it. Idzik was also the only GM that would take the job with Rex Ryan staying on as head coach. Woodys love affair with Rex was a big problem. Then going 8-8 then 4-12 is what did him and Idzik in.
After this season we will see how terrible Idziks drafts were.
Smith, Richardson, Miliner, Reilly, Enunwa,Winters, Miles, McDougle, Pryor, Amaro, Marcus Williams.
We'll see who contributes and who hits the Bricks to actually see how bad his picks were or were they not coached properly to perform at the NFL level. Schottenheimer, Tannenbaum, Sparano, Mornhinweg, Idzik. That's a lot of guys falling on the sword of Rex Ryan. Idziks worst decision was not hiring his own staff and coaches or maybe taking a job that wouldn't allow him to.
Lastly, ARE you TEN years OLD?
I think that if Fitzpatrick does not sign by that date (7/27) or at the latest, within the first few days of training camp, then at the very least there should be a status change. Meaning that if Geno is looking good in camp, which is likely, then even if Fitzpatrick does sign at a later point, he should not simply be handed back the starter's gig, but should have to compete for it against Geno. Maybe Fitz wins that competition, maybe not, but if Geno has been working hard as the number 1 QB all offseason long and into training camp, I think he deserves at least a shot at winning the job for real.
Regardless of when Fitz signs now, he should have to compete for the job. I don't think Geno is going to be a good QB, but I also know he has never had a chance with good to great talent around him. Maybe he learned a lesson last season and maybe he learned a lot from Fitz.
the problem, for me at least, is that there's is almost nothing to learn in training camp & preseason games..
smith has been at least solid at both since his rookie year.. i don't see that changing, do you??
& i just can't see the logic in eventually paying fitzpatrick starting QB money (even if only in year one of the contract) & asking him to win back the job.....
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Well, I would say you must be 10 years old. You are the one that was proven wrong and yet you need to come back with little, childish digs because you don't have anything to psay in response.
This whole notion of a "Cutoff" point with Fitzpatrick is just ridiculous.
WHy, becuase the Geno fans will be placed back into seclusion for a competentant QB who:
a) Knows the system
b)Has great chemistry with his teammates
c) excellent Locker room leader
d)A figure head to help groom the younger two QB's in Petty and Hack
Honestly, Everyone knows, even this organization knows that Fitz is the best option for this years success. Stop with this none-sense of "Geno never had the weapons Fitz had". He wouldn't know what to do with it any way.
"Oh how dare you say that..It's Hate". If that's considered "hate", then the ones not wanting Fitzpatrick back should be called "Delusional" into thinking we will have a successful year with Geno at the helm.
If Fitz re-signs the Saturday before the Bengals game, the team would roll out a huge red carpet for him knowing that they have a shot of something special this season.
Some Geno fans over look his decision making and try to get away with his potential:
David Klingler
Andre Ware
Eric Zeier
Browning Nagle
Demarcus Russel
Ryan Leaf
Dave Brown
Tim Couch
Tony Banks
All had potential. Though they lacked what Fitz has, something between the ears to play the game. With is the most important part of playing within the white paint on the grass.
WHy, becuase the Geno fans will be placed back into seclusion for a competentant QB who:
a) Knows the system
b)Has great chemistry with his teammates
c) excellent Locker room leader
d)A figure head to help groom the younger two QB's in Petty and Hack
Honestly, Everyone knows, even this organization knows that Fitz is the best option for this years success. Stop with this none-sense of "Geno never had the weapons Fitz had". He wouldn't know what to do with it any way.
"Oh how dare you say that..It's Hate". If that's considered "hate", then the ones not wanting Fitzpatrick back should be called "Delusional" into thinking we will have a successful year with Geno at the helm.
If Fitz re-signs the Saturday before the Bengals game, the team would roll out a huge red carpet for him knowing that they have a shot of something special this season.
Some Geno fans over look his decision making and try to get away with his potential:
David Klingler
Andre Ware
Eric Zeier
Browning Nagle
Demarcus Russel
Ryan Leaf
Dave Brown
Tim Couch
Tony Banks
All had potential. Though they lacked what Fitz has, something between the ears to play the game. With is the most important part of playing within the white paint on the grass.
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i completely agree the locker room would be thrilled to have fitzpatrick back in the fold, even if was just hours before the season opener..
but i think it's not realistic to think fitzpatrick can roll out of bed sunday morning & be ready for the bengals..
the rest of the post we are pretty much in lockstep.....