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HYATT™

Pro Bowl 1st Team
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Jace Amaro right now has a value of a 3rd round pick trade value, just because he is a pass catching tight end (SE) which a lot of teams are looking for...

Teams like Dallas, Houston are two home town teams that I wouldn't put it passed for them to make this deal... Witten isn't getting any younger and the Texans really don't have a number one on their depth chart...

There are plenty other teams that could be interested like San Diego, New Orleans and/or Green Bay could all be options not to mention Miami or Buffalo also could be in play just saying...

Since Amaro's injury is NOT lower body injury the Jets could get two picks: Based on the team in question perusing Amaro bottom half teams 3rd or teams in the top end of value could be a 4th this year and conditional pick in 2017 on playing time/performance based...
Good luck selling that deal.
Amaro's value is no better than any TE prospect coming out in this draft - and they all at least have the advantage of an unknown upside yet. He doesn't.
(And a real stinker of a TE draft class it is, too.)
HYATT™ has already pretty much written him off as JAG & wouldn't waste a draft pick on him regardless of how late the round was.
He is slow as phuque, (4.74s) & only has middling vertical (33") & middling hands. (29th ranked in 2014 [38/53 targets] & even GeNOT couldn't miss a target that big at close range.)
He's big enough (6'-5" | 265#) he COULD become a decent Health Miller-type primarily blocking TE who catches some short hot redes, if he chooses to work on it, but as of now he stinks at that too.

 
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flgreen

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HYATT™;68010 said:
Good luck selling that deal.
Amaro's value is no better than any TE prospect coming out in this draft - and they all at least have the advantage of an unknown upside yet. He doesn't.
(And a real stinker of a TE draft class it is, too.)
HYATT™ has already pretty much written him off as JAG & wouldn't waste a draft pick on him regardless of how late the round was.
He is slow as phuque, (4.74s) & only has middling vertical (33") & middling hands. (29th ranked in 2014 [38/53 targets] & even GeNOT couldn't miss a target that big at close range.)
He's big enough (6'-5" | 265#) he COULD become a decent Health Miller-type primarily blocking TE who catches some short hot redes, if he chooses to work on it, but as of now he stinks at that too.


Well........................................I don't think I would have quite phrased it that way............But I have to agree
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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This Jace Amaro analysis is amusing. i love it when a young player comes in and doesn't immediately set the world on fire, and Jets fans jump to the bust card. We'd be stupid to trade or give up on Amaro at this stage.
 

EBoozer32

Pro Bowl Alternate
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This Jace Amaro analysis is amusing. i love it when a young player comes in and doesn't immediately set the world on fire, and Jets fans jump to the bust card. We'd be stupid to trade or give up on Amaro at this stage.

Well, flgreen presented a very strong case to the contrary!
The fact that he has not even been at the facility or on the sideline is very concerning.
I'm sure MacDaddy and Bowles are none too pleased with his attitude and effort.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Well, flgreen presented a very strong case to the contrary!
The fact that he has not even been at the facility or on the sideline is very concerning.
I'm sure MacDaddy and Bowles are none too pleased with his attitude and effort.

Fan speculation means nothing. Amaro is a talented, former high second round draft pick who hasn't had nearly enough time to be seriously evaluated as a potential NFL player. Fans read between the lines way too much. Nobody knows what Bowles thinks of Amaro, but speculation runs wild when fans think they know.

I'm not saying Amaro is a sure thing. He may be a disappointment in time. But that time is a long ways off, IMO.
 
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flgreen

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Fan speculation means nothing. Amaro is a talented, former high second round draft pick who hasn't had nearly enough time to be seriously evaluated as a potential NFL player. Fans read between the lines way too much. Nobody knows what Bowles thinks of Amaro, but speculation runs wild when fans think they know.

I'm not saying Amaro is a sure thing. He may be a disappointment in time. But that time is a long ways off, IMO.

He was a 2nd round draft pick by a failed regime. He practiced last pre -season on the second field with the scrubs. The initial depth chart had him listed as #3 TE. Behind two stiffs. He was put on IR for an injury that seldom puts players on IR with out surgery. he hasn't been back in the building since.

It may be fan speculation, but the opinion is supported by a lot of empirical evidence. Doesn't mean that it is 100% a fact, but the observations certainly indicate that Amaro isn't the most secure roster spot in the building.

With out having been here it is very likely he won't be any more advanced in his new position, H-back then he was when he showed up last year

Your IMO is also fan speculation with out known facts.
 
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NYJETSDAN16

Repeat Offender Pro Bowler
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Enunwa in my opinion watching him can become a lethal player that can quite change the game as we know it. Especially eliminating the tight end position. Let's be honest, the last play he ran to the outside in O.T and took it up field had been run by Cumberland, he would have been dropped after a gain of 12 or 15 as he had no speed to out run the defenders as Quincey did.

The kid has room to grow obviously. This truly being his rookie season at the position in the league will only propel him to be better in the years to come.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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He was a 2nd round draft pick by a failed regime. He practiced last pre -season on the second field with the scrubs. The initial depth chart had him listed as #3 TE. Behind two stiffs. He was put on IR for an injury that seldom puts players on IR with out surgery. he hasn't been back in the building since.

It may be fan speculation, but the opinion is supported by a lot of empirical evidence. Doesn't mean that it is 100% a fact, but the observations certainly indicate that Amaro isn't the most secure roster spot in the building.

With out having been here it is very likely he won't be any more advanced in his new position, H-back then he was when he showed up last year

Your IMO is also fan speculation with out known facts.

My IMO is simply an acknowledgment that I don't jump to conclusions. It's an opinion no different than yours.

So Enunwa, Pryor, Richardon, and Winters were also draft picks from that "failed regime". Should we assume that their roster spots are in jeopardy, too?
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Enunwa in my opinion watching him can become a lethal player that can quite change the game as we know it. Especially eliminating the tight end position. Let's be honest, the last play he ran to the outside in O.T and took it up field had been run by Cumberland, he would have been dropped after a gain of 12 or 15 as he had no speed to out run the defenders as Quincey did.

The kid has room to grow obviously. This truly being his rookie season at the position in the league will only propel him to be better in the years to come.

I like Enunwa, too. I'd just like to see him show a little more consistency hanging on to the ball. But he's been impressive these last 4-5 weeks.
 
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flgreen

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My IMO is simply an acknowledgment that I don't jump to conclusions. It's an opinion no different than yours.

So Enunwa, Pryor, Richardon, and Winters were also draft picks from that "failed regime". Should we assume that their roster spots are in jeopardy, too?

After today, I would say yes. Not the point, Non of them were 2nd round draft picks who were 3rd on the depth chart
 

butterscotch

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Revisiting his draft profile:
6'2" - HEIGHT
32 5/8" - ARM LENGTH
225 LBS. - WEIGHT
9 1/2" - HANDS
4.45 - 40 yd

OVERVIEW:
Prepped in California, where he also competed in the high jump. Saw very limited action in 10 games as a true freshman in 2010 and had one catch for 10 yards and no touchdowns. Started seven of 13 games in 2010, totaling 21 catches for 293 yards (14.0-yard average) and two TDs. Started all 27 games from 2012-13: Produced 42 catches for 470 yards (11.2) and a TD in 2012 (14 games) and 51 catches for 753 yards (14.8) and 12 TDs in 2013 (13 games). Team captain.

ANALYSIS:
STRENGTHS Looks the part with terrific size, long arms and an NFL musculature. Can elevate and snatch throws above his head. Strong after the catch. Sheer size and brawn to block out corners outside. Has hustle traits. Knows where the sticks are and is very football smart. Excellent intangibles -- team captain with a professional approach and leadership traits. Was a 21-year-old senior.

WEAKNESSES Lacks elite top-end speed to separate vertically. Shows some hip tightness. Is not fluid or sudden out of breaks (wastes steps). Not a natural catcher -- lets throws into his body, double catches some and drops catchable throws.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7

BOTTOM LINE Big, tough, athletic, West Coast receiver who broke out as a senior. Has a mixture of "Z" and "X" traits and could even be viewed as a developmental H-back prospect.

Lets not bet the ranch on this guy.....we need WR's
 

HYATT™

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
Lets not bet the ranch on this guy.....we need WR's
H-Backs ARE WRs, just ones capable of MORE than just running a passing route tree.
The NFL is drifting more and more toward this kind of player having at least 2 or 3 roster spots on every team & displacing the traditional blocking TE or RB/FB.
 

mykcuz

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He was a 2nd round draft pick by a failed regime. He practiced last pre -season on the second field with the scrubs. The initial depth chart had him listed as #3 TE. Behind two stiffs. He was put on IR for an injury that seldom puts players on IR with out surgery. he hasn't been back in the building since.

It may be fan speculation, but the opinion is supported by a lot of empirical evidence. Doesn't mean that it is 100% a fact, but the observations certainly indicate that Amaro isn't the most secure roster spot in the building.

With out having been here it is very likely he won't be any more advanced in his new position, H-back then he was when he showed up last year

Your IMO is also fan speculation with out known facts.
I find it interesting that the rumors in camp were that we made the h back position because Amaro was so bad, but then we stuck with it all year after he was injured.

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butterscotch

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HYATT™;69871 said:
H-Backs ARE WRs, just ones capable of MORE than just running a passing route tree.
The NFL is drifting more and more toward this kind of player having at least 2 or 3 roster spots on every team & displacing the traditional blocking TE or RB/FB.

That's fine but we need to be able to run, catch & score LOL
 
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Mainejet

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I'll tell you what we have in Enunwa. We have a guy that showed a glimpse of some good things late in the season only to absolutely f*ck us in the Buffalo game. He had so many crucial drops in that game. This chump is one of the main contributors as to why the season is over with. The guy needs to work on his hands. They suck and I'd prefer to not see him on the field again until he can rectify that problem. He's better at beating the p*ss out of his wife/girlfriend than he is at catching the ball.
 

gmf1369

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technique as a receiver is in question...
he is a capable receiver when he isn't running clutched with his arms tucked in...
he is a dominate blocker, with potential to be an explosive all around H Back...

time will tell, a full off season participating at this new position improving on his craft he can evolve his overall game... expect he will take the next step...
 

mykcuz

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technique as a receiver is in question...
he is a capable receiver when he isn't running clutched with his arms tucked in...
he is a dominate blocker, with potential to be an explosive all around H Back...

time will tell, a full off season participating at this new position improving on his craft he can evolve his overall game... expect he will take the next step...
Maybe someone can play catch with him in the off season, so he can find out what it feels like to hold a football.

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