Zach has turned the corner …..

cheaterhater

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Zach needs to be smarter chucking the ball places where he shouldn’t. It’s something he has to overcome by season’s end. He has to overcome this.

The pass protection is leaky. He’s constantly having to run out of trouble. I don’t see Wilson standing comfortably in the pocket enough. The o-line needs some work. Good news is we can hit the o-line hard in the draft next year. And we’re getting AVT back.
The coaching staff has a pretty good idea what Zach is I would hope. My guess is that’s why they have been holding him back. Today, in an all out effort to show that we are for real and can beat them cheat, they let him loose and we saw what he’s got. can he get better? I have no idea, but I do know that if he plays the same as he has been, the only way we win is if we run the ball like crazy and our defense is lights out

today the defense sucked. It seemed like they gave up every 3rd down play no matter the yards needed
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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The coaching staff has a pretty good idea what Zach is I would hope. My guess is that’s why they have been holding him back. Today, in an all out effort to show that we are for real and can beat them cheat, they let him loose and we saw what he’s got. can he get better? I have no idea, but I do know that if he plays the same as he has been, the only way we win is if we run the ball like crazy and our defense is lights out

today the defense sucked. It seemed like they gave up every 3rd down play no matter the yards needed

The D looked great on 1st and 2nd down. That’s when the heat came down on Jones. Six sacks today.

The problem, inexplicably, was 3rd and 10. They kept converting it on every drive. It was mind boggling. Michael Carter got torched multiple times today. I thought the pick 6 would redeem him, until JFM went all stupid.
 

cheaterhater

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The D looked great on 1st and 2nd down. That’s when the heat came down on Jones. Six sacks today.

The problem, inexplicably, was 3rd and 10. They kept converting it on every drive. It was mind boggling. Michael Carter got torched multiple times today. I thought the pick 6 would redeem him, until JFM went all stupid.
Agreed. For whatever reason, we can’t beat this team. To move forward we need to figure out how to. Today was a big step backward. I’m disgusted

I want Zach to become the next brady. He hasn’t shown much to give me hope. Today he was unleashed and stunk up the joint, but hey, belichick did the same to Peyton most of the time too, but right now, Zach is no Peyton or even close

today I’m disgusted fro the 1st time in a long time

we have shut down better offenses then this. That’s for sure. And 3rd down was never a problem like today

i hope this game doesn’t deflate the team like it has deflated the fans or we are done
 

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Of course later on we may face Geno in what the media will try to make out as a 'revenge game'. You wonder what might have happened if he hadn't had his jaw broken in the dressing room when he was about to be starter, but he would probably have succumbed to the offensive line problem that has plagued every Jet QB since the first half of Sanchez's tenure.
 

jets82

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It’s not the loss that hurts so much it’s how they lost. Zach totally screwed that game up and it was so blatant to see! They had total control of that game in the first half but that interception killed us. The second half he was even worse when they needed him most! If they would have lost but he played well or better than average than AT LEAST we could have held on to that but he was horrible.

They weren’t going to win every game the rest of the year, I think we all now that but the fact that Zach lost that game for them and they could have won it outright is a killer. I wanted him so much to be the guy but he has shown me it’s probably not going to be that way. I’m so tired of the QB swing every 3-4 years, it’s killing me. I saw true talent and potential in Zach but maybe it was just wishful thinking. DAMNIT!!!
 
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For most of the first half the Jets looked good. Looks to me like the Pats coaching staff made adjustments and the Jets had no answers. This was the game plan they were saving? Out coached and out played.
 

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For most of the first half the Jets looked good. Looks to me like the Pats coaching staff made adjustments and the Jets had no answers. This was the game plan they were saving? Out coached and out played.
Oh please. Wilson threw the game . He sucked from beginning to end.

Those are the facts

Nobody’s afraid of him throwing the ball so expect a stacked box and more of the same .

The kid needs to be sat down until he learns the nuances of the scheme.
 

cheaterhater

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Oh please. Wilson threw the game . He sucked from beginning to end.

Those are the facts

Nobody’s afraid of him throwing the ball so expect a stacked box and more of the same .

The kid needs to be sat down until he learns the nuances of the scheme.
Actually, Zach was pretty good until the last 2 minutes of the 1st half. At that point, every long time Jet fan should have turned off the tv, or , if you wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt you could have done like i did and watched a 2nd half drive from each team and then turned off the game

…or , you could have done what I have down for the past 25 years and just not turned on the tv when you saw we were playing belichick
 

Greentilldeath

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I don’t believe the Oline, LaFluer, Moore etc are the problem. Zach turned a corner, just the wrong corner. His play today was mind boggling. He was DIRECTLY responsible for todays loss. 3 dumbass picks, 9 Pats points. I’m tired of the excuses for this guy. He is no better than last year. All we have been doing is hiding the guy. I don’t think LaFluer has confidence in him. 5 weeks ago against Pitt, I though he played great in the 2nd half. 5 weeks later, we are back to last year I think we are seeing what we all feared….. he plays scared, doesn’t like getting hit, and makes HORRENDOUS decisions. If it comes down to it, play Mike White next week. We aren’t going to win anyways
 

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So a couple of things to think of. As far as I’m concerned, this game was needed. We played from Q2 on like hot garbage and we still only lost by 5 points (2 missed FG and the pick-6 callback thanks to JFM boneheadedness and we still win this game).

Zach showed flashes of what he can do, and he showed how quickly he can give away a game. The INTs weren’t bad, that were outright horrific! That being said, what happens next is the most important thing in his development. We cannot handcuff him, he has to learn from this. He learned today that continually trying to extend plays is a horrible idea. He also overran his coverage and bailed on the coverage too quickly at times.

The bootleg where Uzomah perfectly picked up his block and bought Zach tons of time, instead of staying behind the block and panning the field for an open man, Zach ran his ass all the way to the sideline (eliminating half of the field all by himself), then threw a stupid INT (if he stayed behind the block he could have thrown anywhere on the field, but from the sideline he only has that half of the field for a makeable throw).

Hopefully he figured out some of his limitations and issues today, gets back to work tomorrow and finds way to start limiting this issues. 2 of his 3 INTs were trying to extend plays, trying to do too much, and not knowing when to bail on the play and throw it away. He did some really stupid things, but he also made some really good throws.

Our ST looked like shit. Our Defense couldn’t get a stop on 3rd down, our offense gave the ball away 3 times! And we still lost by 5!

-Garret Wilson is a #1 Stud
-Mims played a helluva game and made a crazy catch on a ball that should have been caught but was misplaced a bit outside
-Conklin played a man’s game and was an animal out there!

We have some good, and some very bad 😂😂

How we rebound from this, is what’s the most important. Time for the coaches to earn their keep
 

jets82

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So a couple of things to think of. As far as I’m concerned, this game was needed. We played from Q2 on like hot garbage and we still only lost by 5 points (2 missed FG and the pick-6 callback thanks to JFM boneheadedness and we still win this game).

Zach showed flashes of what he can do, and he showed how quickly he can give away a game. The INTs weren’t bad, that were outright horrific! That being said, what happens next is the most important thing in his development. We cannot handcuff him, he has to learn from this. He learned today that continually trying to extend plays is a horrible idea. He also overran his coverage and bailed on the coverage too quickly at times.

The bootleg where Uzomah perfectly picked up his block and bought Zach tons of time, instead of staying behind the block and panning the field for an open man, Zach ran his ass all the way to the sideline (eliminating half of the field all by himself), then threw a stupid INT (if he stayed behind the block he could have thrown anywhere on the field, but from the sideline he only has that half of the field for a makeable throw).

Hopefully he figured out some of his limitations and issues today, gets back to work tomorrow and finds way to start limiting this issues. 2 of his 3 INTs were trying to extend plays, trying to do too much, and not knowing when to bail on the play and throw it away. He did some really stupid things, but he also made some really good throws.

Our ST looked like shit. Our Defense couldn’t get a stop on 3rd down, our offense gave the ball away 3 times! And we still lost by 5!

-Garret Wilson is a #1 Stud
-Mims played a helluva game and made a crazy catch on a ball that should have been caught but was misplaced a bit outside
-Conklin played a man’s game and was an animal out there!

We have some good, and some very bad 😂😂

How we rebound from this, is what’s the most important. Time for the coaches to earn their keep
All great points! Zach has talent and potential that is unquestioned but will he learn how to use it correctly! Today was a horrible display of not doing that and I have my doubts now. I’m not bailing on him just yet but I am starting to slowly see the light. He has until the end of this year to show me something and he doesn’t, I will be as hard on him as anyone come next year. Including TCT!
 

hatnlvr

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At this point, we don’t have enough to say Zach is our franchise QB. He has potential, but it’s mid year 2, we need to be moving past potential at this point. I think todays game started that evaluation process. We can’t handcuff him and expect him to learn and grow, now let’s see what happens next.
 

jets82

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At this point, we don’t have enough to say Zach is our franchise QB. He has potential, but it’s mid year 2, we need to be moving past potential at this point. I think todays game started that evaluation process. We can’t handcuff him and expect him to learn and grow, now let’s see what happens next.
Agreed!
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Oh please. Wilson threw the game . He sucked from beginning to end.

Those are the facts

Nobody’s afraid of him throwing the ball so expect a stacked box and more of the same .

The kid needs to be sat down until he learns the nuances of the scheme.
You’re ignoring many other aspects of this game. Including defense, special teams, and o-line play. In other words, everything.

I get it, though. The QB always takes the majority of the blame, warranted or not. It’s the easy way of explaining things.
 
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