BREAKING NEWS: The New York Jets fire GM Mike Maccagnan

butterscotch

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Guys - Johnson couldn't fire Mac before the draft, that would have been a mess. Even if he was considering it, he had to wait. People get fired all the time. I'm not surprised by this, nor am I disappointed necessarily. If it was working out with Mac and Gase, then it wasn't. And Mac and Bowles didn't work either. So if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I credit Mac for doing some good things, and he got us a franchise QB, which is huge. I think he did a decent job that didn't translate to wins on the field. So, time for a change. To me this is no big deal, it's not amateur hour or dysfunction. It's just time for a change. The key to any good organization is having a good leadership team that is on the same page about the strategy and direction of the company or in this case, the team. I'm sure Christopher Johnson recognized that.

Gase deserves to work with a GM that understands what he wants. Apparently, Mac didn't, so they moved on. I'm fine with it.

I would add that this adds a lot of pressure onto Gates to perform well. You can't make this kind of move without expecting results - the Jets need to make the playoffs either this year or next and contend for a Super Bowl in 2021.

I agree he should have been fired sooner but at this point I think they should have given him the year. why let him draft/hire players that Gase does not want (if true) this is pure crazy..
 

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I can't understand where some think that Macc did such a great job of landing Darnold. Darnold fell into our laps. He should have been a Giant and we would have gotten Rosen. His Drafts sucked after the 1st Rd. He always expected too much in trade value. Was the reason we hung om to players like Wilkerson, Lee,etc. He's overpaid in FA to some players Revis, Mosely, Bell. Like others, he should have gotten his walking papers along with Bowles. I am not shocked by this. I think if Gase was running the Draft, we would have gotten our franchise LT and Center. Its just my opinion. Next year, I hope, we draft and Offensive Line.
 

hobson54

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I’ve said it before John Dorsey was fired in June 2017 and that turned out fine for everyone. Jets will be fine without Mac. The Jets needed to do this two years ago. Time to turn the page.

john dorsey was fired from the chiefs who have a (borderline) hall of fame coach to run the show. adam gase doesn't deserve to be king maker like andy reid.

not that macc's firing wasn't without merit. but to do it now, AFTER a coach is hired and AFTER free agency and AFTER the draft and effectively hand a new coach without a proven track record the keys to the castle is just dumb. not saying it can't work out if they land the right new GM. but what has gase done in his career to earn this power?
 

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john dorsey was fired from the chiefs who have a (borderline) hall of fame coach to run the show. adam gase doesn't deserve to be king maker like andy reid.

not that macc's firing wasn't without merit. but to do it now, AFTER a coach is hired and AFTER free agency and AFTER the draft and effectively hand a new coach without a proven track record the keys to the castle is just dumb. not saying it can't work out if they land the right new GM. but what has gase done in his career to earn this power?

Hopefully Gase will not be like Kotite who also was given the keys to the Castle.
 

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john dorsey was fired from the chiefs who have a (borderline) hall of fame coach to run the show. adam gase doesn't deserve to be king maker like andy reid.

not that macc's firing wasn't without merit. but to do it now, AFTER a coach is hired and AFTER free agency and AFTER the draft and effectively hand a new coach without a proven track record the keys to the castle is just dumb. not saying it can't work out if they land the right new GM. but what has gase done in his career to earn this power?

There were probably better times to fire Mac like two years ago. We are in this mess because of Mac. I’m just happy that maybe just maybe someone will use a high draft pick on OL.
 

hobson54

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There were probably better times to fire Mac like two years ago. We are in this mess because of Mac. I’m just happy that maybe just maybe someone will use a high draft pick on OL.


without wanting to come off as a macc apologist, tell me which draft and which player he should taken an o-line in the 1st round? name the year and the o-lineman you would have taken?

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the o-line is warranted. but if you look through all the drafts, there really weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked in the 1st that wouldn't have been tremendous reaches (at least at the time of the draft).
 

butterscotch

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without wanting to come off as a macc apologist, tell me which draft and which player he should taken an o-line in the 1st round? name the year and the o-lineman you would have taken?

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the o-line is warranted. but if you look through all the drafts, there really weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked in the 1st that wouldn't have been tremendous reaches (at least at the time of the draft).

Yes but no......Winning teams get it done no excuse……...Randy Rassmussen & Dave Herman I think we not top draft choices...…...I think Brady was not a top choice (LOL) Winning teams win & losing teams lose.
 

hobson54

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Yes but no......Winning teams get it done no excuse……...Randy Rassmussen & Dave Herman I think we not top draft choices...…...I think Brady was not a top choice (LOL) Winning teams win & losing teams lose.

you said "use a high pick on o-line"

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the oline is valid. he did add 2 potential starters and a top blocking TE/h-back this off-season though.

but when people criticize not using a 1st round pick on o-line, they need to look at each of the drafts and see that there just weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked that wouldn't have been big reaches at the time.
 

butterscotch

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you said "use a high pick on o-line"

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the oline is valid. he did add 2 potential starters and a top blocking TE/h-back this off-season though.

but when people criticize not using a 1st round pick on o-line, they need to look at each of the drafts and see that there just weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked that wouldn't have been big reaches at the time.

No he did not HAVE to use a top pick but get it done. Look my other team made what I think were good choices for the OL the last three years but failed.....deadwood guys that were fat cats ot injured. But I don't fault the GM....but he did fail. Sometimes you do it right but it does not work...……………….But big mac was not the right guy & his moves showed it. Do I think it is a tough time to build an NFL OL? Yes I do.....but get it done.
 

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Yes, it would be nice to think that Gase canned Macc after hearing the theory that O line can be filled out with 'value' players from the bottom of the draft.

The approach that has made the Jets irrelevant for the past few years.
 
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without wanting to come off as a macc apologist, tell me which draft and which player he should taken an o-line in the 1st round? name the year and the o-lineman you would have taken?

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the o-line is warranted. but if you look through all the drafts, there really weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked in the 1st that wouldn't have been tremendous reaches (at least at the time of the draft).

I'm not going back to each year, but he could have picked one over Smith, Hack or Maye even. I said a high draft pick not in the 1st round.
 

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I can't understand where some think that Macc did such a great job of landing Darnold. Darnold fell into our laps. He should have been a Giant and we would have gotten Rosen. His Drafts sucked after the 1st Rd. He always expected too much in trade value. Was the reason we hung om to players like Wilkerson, Lee,etc. He's overpaid in FA to some players Revis, Mosely, Bell. Like others, he should have gotten his walking papers along with Bowles. I am not shocked by this. I think if Gase was running the Draft, we would have gotten our franchise LT and Center. Its just my opinion. Next year, I hope, we draft and Offensive Line.

The one thing is, that "he fell into our laps" argument doesn't work when you have to use it 3 or 4 times. Leonard Williams fell into our laps. Then Jamal Adams. Then Darnold. Then Quinnen.

At some point, you can't keep chalking it up to luck.
 

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you said "use a high pick on o-line"

the criticism he didn't do enough to address the oline is valid. he did add 2 potential starters and a top blocking TE/h-back this off-season though.

but when people criticize not using a 1st round pick on o-line, they need to look at each of the drafts and see that there just weren't o-lineman available when the jets picked that wouldn't have been big reaches at the time.

The only one would have been staying at #6 and going Nelson for guard. But then, you have no Darnold and you use a top 6 pick on a guard, which makes everyone go around with their hair on fire about using such a high pick on OL and it not being a LT, or at least a C.
 

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The only one would have been staying at #6 and going Nelson for guard. But then, you have no Darnold and you use a top 6 pick on a guard, which makes everyone go around with their hair on fire about using such a high pick on OL and it not being a LT, or at least a C.

Fans can always find something to bitch about. The argument that he neglected the o-line is erroneous. He drafted or signed (via FA) 4/5 of the line. Now you argue that it wasn’t good enough, but he didn’t neglect it. Yet, fans still insist on saying that!

I can guarantee you that if Macc had spent higher picks on the o-line, fans would be complaining about neglecting other areas. We’re all a bunch of armchair GM’s who can do better than the GM. Conveniently, we don’t have to live with the consequences of failures or misjudging picks in this forum. We say “how could we pass on that receiver in round 4”, and then when he amounts to nothing, it’s all but forgotten.
 

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Fans can always find something to bitch about. The argument that he neglected the o-line is erroneous. He drafted or signed (via FA) 4/5 of the line. Now you argue that it wasn’t good enough, but he didn’t neglect it. Yet, fans still insist on saying that!

I can guarantee you that if Macc had spent higher picks on the o-line, fans would be complaining about neglecting other areas. We’re all a bunch of armchair GM’s who can do better than the GM. Conveniently, we don’t have to live with the consequences of failures or misjudging picks in this forum. We say “how could we pass on that receiver in round 4”, and then when he amounts to nothing, it’s all but forgotten.

I think the criticism that he did not do enough for the OL is merited in this case. I don't really see much defense for that.
 

butterscotch

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Yes, it would be nice to think that Gase canned Macc after hearing the theory that O line can be filled out with 'value' players from the bottom of the draft.

The approach that has made the Jets irrelevant for the past few years.

Amen Bres
 

butterscotch

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The one thing is, that "he fell into our laps" argument doesn't work when you have to use it 3 or 4 times. Leonard Williams fell into our laps. Then Jamal Adams. Then Darnold. Then Quinnen.

At some point, you can't keep chalking it up to luck.

You are right> not winning games got us those picks lol
 

butterscotch

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Fans can always find something to bitch about. The argument that he neglected the o-line is erroneous. He drafted or signed (via FA) 4/5 of the line. Now you argue that it wasn’t good enough, but he didn’t neglect it. Yet, fans still insist on saying that!

I can guarantee you that if Macc had spent higher picks on the o-line, fans would be complaining about neglecting other areas. We’re all a bunch of armchair GM’s who can do better than the GM. Conveniently, we don’t have to live with the consequences of failures or misjudging picks in this forum. We say “how could we pass on that receiver in round 4”, and then when he amounts to nothing, it’s all but forgotten.

Don't say all
 
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