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gmf1369

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To each our own.

You believe in Mike White and I don't.

Just leave it at that.

You asked ME a question about Mike White and I answered you. But now you don't like my response? My opinion.

He has not proved to me he can play on this level. 1 good game vs Cincy after being drafted 4 years ago doesn't change the fact he tossed 4 INTs vs. Buffalo with 0 TDs and as a 4th year players imo that was atrocious.

The only thing he's ever proved in the NFL is that he's a career practice squad player.

These are just my opinions and no. I don't believe in him as a longterm backup QB with almost 0 experience (as a 5th year player come next season).
in two games we will see if Zach can do better
and if he doesn't don't blame the supporting cast?
 

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Zach Wilson is a Rookie.

Mike White is a 4th year player drafted into the NFL 2018.

You don't see the difference?
literally Mike White this is his rookie season as this season he was on the active roster
he may not have been a literal rookie but it was his first time this year to see live action which makes him a rookie and he performed well and he performed like a rookie but you will never see the difference because you want to give the leeway to only Zach, that is fine that is your view but don't argue with me you will lose
 

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You hit the nail on the button with this and I agree 1,000 percent. I wasn’t at all a believer in Zach until he change my mind during the off-season, training camp and preseason. I realized then he did have ALOT more potential and talent than Darnold and he should be supporting just as much as I did Darnold.

I’ll give him as much support as I did Darnold which was three years. I started feeling real iffy on Darnold in his second year but I still stuck with him until his third year. I’ll do the same with Zach and I believe he won’t disappoint! If I’m wrong than so be it but he deserves just as much support from us as we gave Sam. In my opinion!!!
What you guys fail to understand is that it’s your right to support Zach just as it’s TCT’s right to be critical . He doesn’t have to agree with you guys and you guys don’t have to agree with him . Just quit going at each other and post about the team and it’s players, coaches, front office and ownership.
 

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He's not a Rookie.

He was drafted in 2018.

4 years later at soon to be 27 years old is no "ROOKIE" when it's now 2021.

His first 4 years have been stuck on the practice squad and why? Maybe because he stinks?

Drafted in 2018 and now 2022 and you're calling him a ROOKIE? I'll agree to disagree.

PS; I dont want to talk about Mike White with you anymore. You asked me a Mike White question and I answered you with my opinion. Let it be.
a Rookie is a player that has not been on an active roster nor has played in NFL game which Mike White literally is
you want to fight me, fine bring it but the meaning is a double edge sword...
you are technically right he was drafted in 2018 but was not put on the active roster, waived and the Jets put him on their practice squad...
How many forums have you been on before coming here?
Do you want to find another one to matriculate too?
Because you don't stand to see reason and if you don't believe me you can ask your friends at JetNation...
A rookie is a rookie until he has accrued years of actual playing time in the NFL...
Reasons why a player of his stature is still able to get a RFA Tender in year 5...
 

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literally Mike White this is his rookie season as this season he was on the active roster
he may not have been a literal rookie but it was his first time this year to see live action which makes him a rookie and he performed well and he performed like a rookie but you will never see the difference because you want to give the leeway to only Zach, that is fine that is your view but don't argue with me you will lose
One other thing . One guy was drafted 2nd overall in the 1st round as a Franchise QB and the other was drafted on the last day of the draft as a project . In their 1st year in a system together why does the Franchise have to learn from the mail room clerk ?
 

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I agree. But he somehow had the right to support and make excuses for Sam and for 3 years too? But godforsaken you support Zach Wilson for a whopping 13 games it's annoying and criminal to him? That's hypocritical imo.
I will moderate this forum, I have two moderators who will moderate members
you don't have to worry about putting people straight, either cease this AT posting and trying to get people riled up or will have to let you go...
Do you get me?
 

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One other thing . One guy was drafted 2nd overall in the 1st round as a Franchise QB and the other was drafted on the last day of the draft as a project . In their 1st year in a system together why does the Franchise have to learn from the mail room clerk ?
a quarterback on the practice squad for four years must of earned some kind of respect not to be replaced with someone else? he must of done something to stick around that long? he must of also been a team player reason why we saw his team mates have his back?
 

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here is a reply and a question how old was Kurt Warner when he played his rookie season for the Rams?
 

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I agree. But he somehow had the right to support and make excuses for Sam and for 3 years too? But godforsaken you support Zach Wilson for a whopping 13 games it's annoying and criminal to him? That's hypocritical imo.

Here is the difference. I don't care that you support Wilson or anyone else. You and another member hate that I supported Sam so long. You want to prove me wrong so bad. Well guess what? I've been wrong more than Idzik and Macc combined. The other member I highly doubt will try to rub it in my face if I'm wrong just as I wouldn't do that to him if he is wrong. On the other hand, you have already stated we will see who has the last laugh. I just want the Jets to get better. They have ruined more of my days than I care to admit and coming to this forum has been mine and many others therapy. And now you are ruining this forum with your arrogance and ridiculously long posts.
 

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Guys….. we are off the rails here. I started the thread talking about Zach and his progression. I was wondering if my fellow Jet fans thought he was starting to progress or not? I don’t know how we got to Mike White, Sam Darold or Kurt Warner? If TCT liked and supported Sam, who cares? It his right to support who he liked and believed in…. Just as DWC likes to support Zach. As fans, we should support our starting QB whoever he is because he is on our team.
 

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Guys….. we are off the rails here. I started the thread talking about Zach and his progression. I was wondering if my fellow Jet fans thought he was starting to progress or not? I don’t know how we got to Mike White, Sam Darold or Kurt Warner? If TCT liked and supported Sam, who cares? It his right to support who he liked and believed in…. Just as DWC likes to support Zach. As fans, we should support our starting QB whoever he is because he is on our team.
What did you think was going to happen when you broached the subject of Zach Wilson with the opinions here ? If you don’t agree that Wilson is the greatest thing since slice cheese it’s going to be a problem for some .
 

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Hey man. I never even knew you supported Sam Darnold until someone else mentioned it.

All I'm asking for you? Is to give me the same freedom to support Zach Wilson as you had for 3 years with Sam Darnold. Without you trying to "correct me".

All of this started when you tried to correct me by telling me and quoting me how Zach Wilson's Franchise long TD run from a QB "wasn't electric". And imo you're wrong for that because it was electric to me and made me run around my living room going nuts.

I made excuses for Sam too.

Crap coaches.
Crap O-Linemen.
Crap WRs.
Crap TEs.
Crap RBs.

He never had a chance in hell to succeed.

And guess what? Zach Wilson was drafted into absolute crap too.

But yet you seem to have a problem with my support, belief and excitement over Zach and only 13 games in? That's sad. If you're butthurt over never wanting Zach Wilson? Cool.

But don't you dare try and take out your Zach Wilson frustrations out on, me.

Because talking Jets Football is my Jets Football therapy too.
Why do you need his approval. If you think it was electric so be it . He thinks it was just okay so be it . Agree on those issues and this little Francis is all over .
 

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Hey man. I never even knew you supported Sam Darnold until someone else mentioned it.

All I'm asking for you? Is to give me the same freedom to support Zach Wilson as you had for 3 years with Sam Darnold. Without you trying to "correct me".

All of this started when you tried to correct me by telling me and quoting me how Zach Wilson's Franchise long TD run from a QB "wasn't electric". And imo you're wrong for that because it was electric to me and made me run around my living room going nuts.

I made excuses for Sam too.

Crap coaches.
Crap O-Linemen.
Crap WRs.
Crap TEs.
Crap RBs.

He never had a chance in hell to succeed.

And guess what? Zach Wilson was drafted into absolute crap too.

But yet you seem to have a problem with my support, belief and excitement over Zach and only 13 games in? That's sad. If you're butthurt over never wanting Zach Wilson? Cool.

But don't you dare try and take out your Zach Wilson frustrations out on, me.

Because talking Jets Football is my Jets Football therapy too.

I'm not the one that started this argument. You are the one butthurt because I didn't think his run where nobody was chasing him wasn't electric. Again I'm not the one getting banned from forums. I will leave it that.
 

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Why do you need his approval. If you think it was electric so be it . He thinks it was just okay so be it . Agree on those issues and this little Francis is all over .

I just didn't think it was electric. I was impressed he didn't go out of bounds. It was a good run just not that exciting to me. Do it this week or next and I'm as excited (well maybe not) as DWC.
 

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I don't need his approval.

But I don't need him QUOTING ME to tell me what is electric and what is not electric.

It's all good. I just placed him on ignore in order to prevent being BAITED by him. Because that's all he's been doing since my return, is baiting me into a banning and he's doing one heck of a job too. And he started it during the game thread. Enough is enough. He's now on ignore.

If only I had that power. Believe me you will get yourself banned, but I appreciate you felt my presence.
 

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I just didn't think it was electric. I was impressed he didn't go out of bounds. It was a good run just not that exciting to me. Do it this week or next and I'm as excited (well maybe not) as DWC.
I don’t care about him running. We drafted him because of his magic arm not his fancy feet . Hit the receivers in stride on a consistent basic and all my doubts go away . The kid is improving and I am coming around . He’s no longer “Opie” .
If we wanted a dual threat at QB we should have drafted the kid in Chicago .
 

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I don’t care about him running. We drafted him because of his magic arm not his fancy feet . Hit the receivers in stride on a consistent basic and all my doubts go away . The kid is improving and I am coming around . He’s no longer “Opie” .
If we wanted a dual threat at QB we should have drafted the kid in Chicago .

I'm fine with him running electrically with nobody chasing him at full speed. Its like scoring an empty net goal in hockey.
 

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I'm fine with him running electrically with nobody chasing him at full speed. Its like scoring an empty net goal in hockey.

:rofl2:

that isn't exactly the case...
the blitz collapsed the pocket "at full speed".
#42 on their D did chase him down "at full speed".

Zach is faster than he looks., so once he broke containment and their line and blitzers couldn't match him to the sidelines, bc they were gassed. The coverage was man, so the action of the play saw covering defenders on the other side of the field.

was the play Young against Vikes good? no.
was it Randall leaping GMen good? no.
so, i get where you're coming from as a not electric run in comparison to other great QB Runs.

However, I have to give it electric for the fanbase this year...the only other highlight reel material are the TN Deep Ball, the Olineman TD Catch, and the Berrios TD Return. I admit to a "Holy $h!t...he's gonna break it" come flyin' outta my pie-hole.
 
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