We've had a top 10 defense the last 5 years...if you have t noticed defense isn't our problem, you haven't been paying attention.
#6 pick in 2015 - Jets select Leonard Williams DT USC
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We've had a top 10 defense the last 5 years...if you have t noticed defense isn't our problem, you haven't been paying attention.
A "top 10 defense" isn't enough to compensate for poor QB play.
A DOMINANT one, however (Bears, Giants, Ravens, Steel Curtain, etc) can take you all the way.
So again, you go to bat with a rookie receiver you think we NEED, and I'll take my chances putting as many dominant players on the field as I can . . .
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And if you haven't noticed our inability to get off the field on 3rd downs, or stop game-winning drives the past few years, I again wonder which games you've been watching . . .
I'm not gonna take sides in the draft debate, too me there is more than one way to skin a cat, the trick is to just keep adding as many good players as you can, both sides of the ball, and good things will follow.
That said, I agree with OCCH's premise here, at times we've had some very good defenses during the Rex Ryan era, during the Parcells era too, but we haven't had a DOMINANT DEFENSE since the glory days of the sack exchange, and IMO this defense has a chance to be that kind of defense, one that terrorizes QB's and DOMINATES football games, especially if Mauldin steps up and completes the puzzle as an edge rusher ... and he might.
I agree with your opinion. Our defense is very close to a super unit. Let's go after it, it can only take the pressure off the offense knowing they just have to produce very little and they will have a chance to win.
I love this pick. It was a very disciplined move. Reaching for White at 6 would have been a huge mistake in my opinion. Williams was the #1 player on virtually every board I have seen. This was a smart pick. I bet the Jets resign Wilkerson too. It would not surprise me at all. This defense over the next three years can be special if everyone stays healthy.
That seems a bit shortsighted and dismissive. That's like saying all you need are skill guys, because they're the only ones who score.
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Making your pOint? a great WR with a piss poor QB led the Broncos to a road playoff victory in Pl ittsburgh...when has a DT ever done that? Never.
First..he did play phenomenal that game..but it was an aberration..he sucked the rest of the year..and his defense kept him in games to win.....the playoff was at home not road, and both the Jets and Bears (Barber running out of bounds when Denver had no timeouts helped Denver...
TEBOW SUCKS plain and simple...good guy WILL NEVER BE AN NFL QB...and never was
Making your pOint? a great WR with a piss poor QB led the Broncos to a road playoff victory in Pl ittsburgh...when has a DT ever done that? Never.
First..he did play phenomenal that game..but it was an aberration..he sucked the rest of the year..and his defense kept him in games to win.....the playoff was at home not road, and both the Jets and Bears (Barber running out of bounds when Denver had no timeouts helped Denver...
TEBOW SUCKS plain and simple...good guy WILL NEVER BE AN NFL QB...and never was
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The most unanimity ever seen about any subject here at JetsFansUnited and probably every other Jet fan venue. Of all the posters here only TWO think Leonard Williams was not the best pick for the team. It was three until sometime yesterday afternoon when it dropped to two
If a discussion was about whether the sky was blue, we'd probably have more than just 2 dissenters
If a discussion was about whether the sky was blue, we'd probably have more than just 2 dissenters
Bradway was a long time scout and GM. I don't see you kissing his AZZ!
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo · 11m11 minutes agoJets DL Leonard Williams expected to sign his contract tonight. Sixth overall pick gets a four-year, $18.6m deal with $11.6m signing bonus.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo · 21m21 minutes agoPardon, Leonard Williams' signing bonus is $11.8m not $11.6m. Full numbers: 4 years, $18,630,868, fully gtd, signing bonus $11,809,720.
New York Jets @nyjets · 2m2 minutes agoWe have signed DL Leonard Williams- http://bit.ly/1zLQplr All 6 draft picks are now signed.
Jets defensive end Leonard Williams is sublimely talented. That was never much of a question.
So far, his thirst for knowledge of the NFL game matches his natural talent. That's what has stood out to coach Todd Bowles through offseason activities so far.
"Sometimes you'll get rookies that just run around and don't know where to go; this guy is always where he needs to be," Bowles said, per NJ.com. "He's always on time. He's always in his playbook. He's asking more questions than the normal rookies usually ask at this point in time. So from that standpoint, I just say he has age beyond his years."
It's somewhat hard to believe, but Williams is only 20 years old. He doesn't turn 21 until June 20. That's part of the reason his ceiling is so exceptionally high.
New York drafted the USC product fifth overall not because of need but because he was the top-rated player on their board. A number of analysts considered Williams the best overall player in this class, so it was a surprise he even fell to No. 5.
The two-time first-team All-American finished with 21 sacks, 36.5 tackles for a loss, five forced fumbles, two interceptions and 218 tackles over three seasons with the Trojans. Even if there's no obvious spot for him on a defensive line that features Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson, he undoubtedly makes this defense — and this team — better.
"Right now, most of the things are mental," Bowles said. "He's in pretty good shape, which I like. He's more mature than the average rookie. He's grasping the system quickly and he's moving around well out of pads, but to really judge him, you have to see him in pads for the linemen."
In other words: so far, so good.
http://nyj.247sports.com/Bolt/Rookie-Leonard-Williams-maturity-work-ethic-impresses-Jets-37480393
So far, his thirst for knowledge of the NFL game matches his natural talent. That's what has stood out to coach Todd Bowles through offseason activities so far.
"Sometimes you'll get rookies that just run around and don't know where to go; this guy is always where he needs to be," Bowles said, per NJ.com. "He's always on time. He's always in his playbook. He's asking more questions than the normal rookies usually ask at this point in time. So from that standpoint, I just say he has age beyond his years."
It's somewhat hard to believe, but Williams is only 20 years old. He doesn't turn 21 until June 20. That's part of the reason his ceiling is so exceptionally high.
New York drafted the USC product fifth overall not because of need but because he was the top-rated player on their board. A number of analysts considered Williams the best overall player in this class, so it was a surprise he even fell to No. 5.
The two-time first-team All-American finished with 21 sacks, 36.5 tackles for a loss, five forced fumbles, two interceptions and 218 tackles over three seasons with the Trojans. Even if there's no obvious spot for him on a defensive line that features Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson, he undoubtedly makes this defense — and this team — better.
"Right now, most of the things are mental," Bowles said. "He's in pretty good shape, which I like. He's more mature than the average rookie. He's grasping the system quickly and he's moving around well out of pads, but to really judge him, you have to see him in pads for the linemen."
In other words: so far, so good.
http://nyj.247sports.com/Bolt/Rookie-Leonard-Williams-maturity-work-ethic-impresses-Jets-37480393
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/51693/some-expected-hiccups-for-jets-rookie-qb-bryce-petty
2. Leonard update: First-round pick Leonard Williams spent most of the practice on the No. 2 field, working with the third stringers. Relax, he got some reps with the starters in team drills, so it's not like he's buried on the depth chart. Todd Bowles said the prized rookie has been going back and forth between the No. 1 and No. 2 fields throughout OTAs (organized team activities). The goal at this point is to get the young players as many reps as possible, which, in theory, should help the transition when they get to training camp.
2. Leonard update: First-round pick Leonard Williams spent most of the practice on the No. 2 field, working with the third stringers. Relax, he got some reps with the starters in team drills, so it's not like he's buried on the depth chart. Todd Bowles said the prized rookie has been going back and forth between the No. 1 and No. 2 fields throughout OTAs (organized team activities). The goal at this point is to get the young players as many reps as possible, which, in theory, should help the transition when they get to training camp.
Brian Heimerdinger comments on the selection of Williams and other topics.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/51697/jets-rookie-personnel-exec-calls-leonard-williams-a-draft-day-gift
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/51697/jets-rookie-personnel-exec-calls-leonard-williams-a-draft-day-gift