#6 pick in 2015 - Jets select Leonard Williams DT USC

Football51

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who said that? If the previous regime drafted Andrew Luck, can you not ask why the new one drafted Jamies Winston? I dont know about you, but I, personally, still think Mo and Richardson are good players, amongst the best at what they do in the entire league. I still think its fair to ask how many players we need like Wilkerson and Richardson, even if idzik or Mike T drafted Williams, id ask the same question - Wilkerson, Coples, Richardson, and Williams...how many Des do we need?


Like Hobson said, you can only play one qb at a time(unless you're Rex Ryan.... Wild Cat). You can play four defensive lineman at once(and we will........ a lot).
 

Superman55

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well no they didn't. last i checked, you can play 4 d-linemen at a time and rotate the guys even if you use a 3-4 front. doubt that works with QBs.

as to WRs, it's odd you mention that position because it really wasn't that much of a dire need. decker, marshall, kerley and amaro (a receiving TE), plus a handful of young guys meant we didn't have a dire need there. taking white (which again, i wanted) would have been adding to an already deep position. we are deeper at receiver than QB, o-line, RB, TE, LB and S. so if you are gonna get so tied up on drafting by need, then we should have not taken either a DT or a WR. we should have reached for another position.

but i guess you think reaching for need is the way to go. not sure that would make you any better of a GM than your fellow nitney lion...

Is that how you spell Nittany?

I didnt say reach, I said trade down, acquire more picks, and use Mac's beautiful portfolio analogy he ignored.
 

hobson54

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Is that how you spell Nittany?

I didnt say reach, I said trade down, acquire more picks, and use Mac's beautiful portfolio analogy he ignored.


well sure. tell me who wanted to trade up. macc said he talked to teams about trades up and down.

given there were only 2 trades made, and no trades made until the teens, it's hard to fault them for not being able to trade down.
 

hobson54

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gotta think someone is being traded. either mo or williams being flipped in this draft

For a lower pick than #6 ...so it doesnt really matter. I think we're going to just draft defensive linemen the next 20 years in a row and suck forever...that's why we're the Jets!

I didnt say reach, I said trade down, acquire more picks, and use Mac's beautiful portfolio analogy he ignored.


btw - i recalled the above convo from last night. when i suggested that perhaps one of mo or williams was gonna be traded, your response seemed to indicate that you didn't see the point in trading for a pick lower than 6. but isn't that what "trading down" requires?
 

marac

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Remember we are only 1 pick into this thing before we all freak out about any other positions. Geez
 

Green Jets & Ham

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Even the worlds biggest Patriots ass-kisser and Jets hater, Heath Evans, is reluctantly calling the Jets the biggest winners last night, and he's publicly warning his buddy Tom Brady to be afraid, be very afraid ... and the best part is, he looks depressed over it, but he can't deny it because he spent the past few weeks calling Leonard Williams a monster and insisting the Titans would be nuts not to take him at 2.
 

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Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · 13h13 hours ago

"Williams was the best player in the draft regardless of position. If you're NYJ you had to take him. Sky's the limit with this kid" -Mayock



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Earvin Magic Johnson @MagicJohnson · 17h17 hours ago

Wow! With Leonard Williams going to the Jets who already have Cromartie & Revis, nobody in the AFC will want to go up against that defense!




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Michael Fabiano @Michael_Fabiano · 18h18 hours ago

Think about the Jets defense. Seriously. How the heck is anyone going to score on them???


 
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FYI namath gets credit because of the guarantee but as much as i like namath he only had 170 yds in that SB it was the jets defense that won that game and boozer and snell.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Remember we are only 1 pick into this thing before we all freak out about any other positions. Geez

Seriously. We've got the 2nd and 3rd round to get a few decent players. Possibly a trade down to accumulate more picks. Let's sit back and see what happens.

I'm not surprised that a few people are up in arms over the Williams pick. There's always a voice of dissent no matter the pick. But I'm feeling so good envisioning this defensive line. They're going to dominate. It's going to be laughable. Who's running the ball on us? Who?
 

hobson54

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Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · 13h13 hours ago

"Williams was the best player in the draft regardless of position. If you're NYJ you had to take him. Sky's the limit with this kid" -Mayock



Jake Steinberg retweeted
Earvin Magic Johnson @MagicJohnson · 17h17 hours ago

Wow! With Leonard Williams going to the Jets who already have Cromartie & Revis, nobody in the AFC will want to go up against that defense!




Jake Steinberg retweeted
Michael Fabiano @Michael_Fabiano · 18h18 hours ago

Think about the Jets defense. Seriously. How the heck is anyone going to score on them???




well magic johnson likes it, so we got that going for us...
 

Superman55

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FYI namath gets credit because of the guarantee but as much as i like namath he only had 170 yds in that SB it was the jets defense that won that game and boozer and snell.

We didn't all watch the game live, man. We don't remember the game as well as you. :)
 

Superman55

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btw - i recalled the above convo from last night. when i suggested that perhaps one of mo or williams was gonna be traded, your response seemed to indicate that you didn't see the point in trading for a pick lower than 6. but isn't that what "trading down" requires?

I was talking about trading Mo, it would be lower than the 6 pick.
 

RMJK

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One benefit of having Williams will be in the negotiations with Mo Wilkerson; If Mo demands are ridiculous, we can trade him or keep him to his rookie contract for one more year.

I'd like to see us address our Offensive line in round 2,3,4. One injury and we're in trouble.
 

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Hill had 29 total catches in college...I think comparing him to suh in terms of where they would go in the draft is far fetched.

Suh was drafted in 2010. So, to make this realistic, in 2010 if we had Wilkerson and Richardson on the roster, and had to decide between the #1 DT in the 2010 draft, Suh, and the #1 WR in the 2010 draft, Demaryius Thomas...I'd take Thomas. yes i would.

I'll go on record saying I'd take Suh 10 out of 10 times.

From a Jets perspective, there's NO WAY Thomas becomes the player he did without Payton behind center, and from a Denver perspective I'd say they'd be better team today with Suh on their line and "some other WR" catching touchdowns left and right from Payton . . .
 
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