Geno Smith?

Golden Rott

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Geno is really impressing me lately. I am sure this is probably nonsense but on Instagram it's nothing but pics and videos of him working out.

All other jets players I follow are just pics of them hanging out, especially Pryor. He does nothing but drink and look drunk in his photos. Kind of worrisome.

Brandon Marshall has also been shown working out constantly-- despite the bad rap he got in Chicago, Marshall is really looking like a leader. Glad to see Geno working hard, but I need to see it on the field. I am rooting for him, but like I have said before, I am skeptical.
 

Elias

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Brandon Marshall has also been shown working out constantly-- despite the bad rap he got in Chicago, Marshall is really looking like a leader. Glad to see Geno working hard, but I need to see it on the field. I am rooting for him, but like I have said before, I am skeptical.

Yea I agree. Working out is good and all but we need to see him take the next step mentally. That is where I think Geno is struggling. He isn't good under pressure. Reverts to his bad habits. Back pedaling, throwing off his back foot, rushing the throw, etc.


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Savage69

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Geno is really impressing me lately. I am sure this is probably nonsense but on Instagram it's nothing but pics and videos of him working out.

All other jets players I follow are just pics of them hanging out, especially Pryor. He does nothing but drink and look drunk in his photos. Kind of worrisome.

Pryor looks drunk in his photos even when he's not drinking..LOL
 

NickSINYC

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Not to be cynical but I take anything I see on Instagram and Twitter with a huge grain of salt.
 

johnnysd

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At the time that Idzik made the pick for Geno I was ecstatic simply because he was NOT Mark Sanchez. Now I will be ecstatic if Fitz starts only because he's NOT Geno.

You see what I am saying?

The Jets have not had even a whisper of good QB play in a very long time. Probably since Favre in 2008. It's time for the Jets once and for all to get a plan to develop a young QB into something franchise worthy. Furthermore, it's time for the Jets to figure a good, sustainable system under we can develop QB's into anything other than garbage. Because make no mistake about it, that's all that we've had for many years now.

Rex was the reason. He is gone. We need to see Geno under a real regime.
 
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Rex was the reason. He is gone. We need to see Geno under a real regime.

Ha ha ha Well, what's going to be your excuse when Geno stinks up the joint under this new regime? Claiming that Rex had ANYTHING to do with why Geno is as incompetent as he is has got to be the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Geno SUCKS. Get over it. Rex had nothing to with Geno's failures. It's Johnnysd's fault for thinking Geno was anything other than WORTHLESS.
 

Golden Rott

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The last time the Jets had an extended period of good QB play was 2002-04. You have to go back to 2004 to find a season where our QBs completed > 60% of their passes and averaged less than 1 pick per game. Favre threw 22 picks in 2008. He also fumbled 10 times -- so while he made plays, he also turned the ball over more in 2008 than either Geno or Sanchez ever did in a single season. That is not good QB play in my book.

At this point, I don't care if it is Geno, Fitz, Petty, Heaps or someone else that is not on the roster. After 10 years, it is time for some decent QB play. Just play the guy who can actually take care of the ball and make some plays. I don't care who it is, but I want to see at least 60% completions, 20+ TDs and 12 or fewer Ints. Figure out who can do that and let him start.

Is that too much to ask?
 

Old#15

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Be careful on your absolutes NE guy, because you may just end up being quoted with writing the "dumbest sh*t I've ever heard(read)".
 

Bronx

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Be careful on your absolutes NE guy, because you may just end up being quoted with writing the "dumbest sh*t I've ever heard(read)".

According to him, Geno has no shot at starting game 1. We shall see


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We shall see.

I wouldn't say zero chance

Fitzpatrick could get injured, god forbid.
 

johnnysd

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Ha ha ha Well, what's going to be your excuse when Geno stinks up the joint under this new regime? Claiming that Rex had ANYTHING to do with why Geno is as incompetent as he is has got to be the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Geno SUCKS. Get over it. Rex had nothing to with Geno's failures. It's Johnnysd's fault for thinking Geno was anything other than WORTHLESS.

Bullshit. There is a reason our QBs and offense were not only incompetent but looked exactly the same under 3 different OCs in Rex's tenure and that is Rex forcing a hyper conservative offensive game plan. continuing to run even when the box was stacked, forcing the wildcat which has not worked in 4 years and getting the QB in the worst possible situations which led to more turnovers. Geno may suck, but there is NO question that a Rex coached team is the worst possible situation for any QB, and Sanchez and Geno never got competent coaching while he was here. Rex is such a loser. Geno may not make it, but the person who SUCKS is Rex. What a cancer he was to this team. So glad he is gone.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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Ha ha ha Well, what's going to be your excuse when Geno stinks up the joint under this new regime? Claiming that Rex had ANYTHING to do with why Geno is as incompetent as he is has got to be the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Geno SUCKS. Get over it. Rex had nothing to with Geno's failures. It's Johnnysd's fault for thinking Geno was anything other than WORTHLESS.

Well, coaching had something to do with it. And his crappy supporting cast and his crappy OL. Not saying he will be good, but he has one more year to prove it with improved parts and coaches.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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Bullshit. There is a reason our QBs and offense were not only incompetent but looked exactly the same under 3 different OCs in Rex's tenure and that is Rex forcing a hyper conservative offensive game plan. continuing to run even when the box was stacked, forcing the wildcat which has not worked in 4 years and getting the QB in the worst possible situations which led to more turnovers. Geno may suck, but there is NO question that a Rex coached team is the worst possible situation for any QB, and Sanchez and Geno never got competent coaching while he was here. Rex is such a loser. Geno may not make it, but the person who SUCKS is Rex. What a cancer he was to this team. So glad he is gone.

I wouldn't call him a cancer. I would say he is not good at some things and awful with QB's. He did do some good stuff while he was here as well.
 

Old#15

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I wouldn't call him a cancer. I would say he is not good at some things and awful with QB's. He did do some good stuff while he was here as well.
Yeah, I agree with that. He clearly was not an offenses' best friend and was not an acceptable developer of young players, but I wouldn't call him a cancer either.
 

johnnysd

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I wouldn't call him a cancer. I would say he is not good at some things and awful with QB's. He did do some good stuff while he was here as well.

I think he did some good stuff the first couple years. He was new and more open to delegating responsibility and control to his staff. His connection with players was more genuine I think and positioned him more as a head coach, but he got so caught up in that and lost control of his players. Sad thing is that Rex actually got progressively worse as he coached more, because with his fighter mentality and ego, when things went a little wrong he exerted more and more control over them, which is supposed to be what a HC does, but he did so in a way that was destructive to the team forcing philosophies and players that just did not fit the modern NFL. The more the team became structured the way Rex wanted it, the worse we became. He became a very very bad head coach by the end. Just unable to handle adversity and unwilling to change and adapt to his players and the modern NFL. His last couple of seasons he was most definitely a cancer. But, that led to Woody finally realizing that you need football people coaching not personalities and football people running the front office not corporate bean counters and because of that the Jets future I think is much brighter
 
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Ryan Fitzpatrick Should Start at QB For the New York Jets
BY ANDREW BINDELGLASS JUNE 15, 2015

New York Jets quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick throws during voluntary minicamp at the NFL football team's training facility, Tuesday, April 28, 2015, in Florham Park, N.J. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)
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The dawn of the 2015 NFL Season brings with it an all too unfamiliar feeling for Jets fans: hope. Due to poor drafting and a lack of urgency on the front office, the general consensus has been that the Jets entered into the last two seasons hopelessly outgunned. Injuries and lack of depth forced players who, frankly, had little business being on an NFL field, into starting roles.

Now however, things have changed. Under first-year General Manager Mike Maccagnan, the Jets have had an extremely aggressive offseason: adding a top-tier receiver, signing 2 of the top defensive backs in the league, and bolstering an already stacked defensive line, among other notable moves. The 2015 New York Jets are already light-years better than last year’s iteration, and are primed to win now.

One of the more overlooked acquisitions of this offseason was the signing of quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, the 32-year old Harvard graduate who was 6-6 in 12 games at the helm of the Houston Texans last year before missing the end of his season with a broken leg. But Fitzpatrick has the potential to be the key to the first Jets playoff run since 2010.

The largest question mark remaining for the 2015 Jets is once again at quarterback. Geno Smith showed some improvement in his 14 starts last season, but still managed to win only 3 games and threw as many interceptions as he did touchdowns (His numbers are also somewhat inflated by his 358 yard, 3 touchdown game in a meaningless Week 17 win in Miami). At his best, he was a gunslinger who could make all the throws. At his worst, he was a lost child, unsure of what to do and often making poor throws that resulted in turnovers.

Geno is still young, and still has the potential to become a solid NFL quarterback. But this Jets team is too good to stake the path of this season on potential. Ryan Fitzpatrick, on the other hand, is a known commodity. He’s proven to be a smart player who, if given time and talent around him, can have success. He also has a rapport with new offensive coordinator Chan Gailey: For the three years Gailey coached Fitzpatrick in Buffalo, he threw for 10,232 yards and 71 touchdowns. Over his career he has completed 60% of his passes, and thrown for 123 touchdowns to 101 interceptions. And, after seasons with St. Louis, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Tennessee, and Houston, this Jets team has far and away the best supporting cast Fitzpatrick has gotten to play with.

What the Jets can and should do is lean heavily on their running game, the talented triumvirate of Chris Ivory, Stephen Ridley, and Zac Stacy (as well as Bilal Powell), and trust that in passing situations, Fitzpatrick can deliver the ball to the bevy of playmakers (Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley, Jace Amaro) the Jets possess at the skill positions. Their defense has the talent to stifle any offense in the NFL, so Fitzpatrick and the offense will not need to produce a ton of points to win games. Ball possession, a punishing running game, and a smart game manager at QB will translate into a lot of wins for this team.

If this sounds familiar, it’s what a lot of people were saying about the Jets offense under Mark Sanchez in 2010. That year, backed by the 3rd best defense and 4th best ground attack in the NFL, Sanchez completed 55% of his passes, with 17 TDs and 13 INTs. Those numbers are far from earth shattering, but Sanchez played smart, managed the game well, and made throws when he had to. Behind that effort, Gang Green soared to an 11-5 record and two playoff wins before coming up just short in the AFC Championship Game in Pittsburgh.

This 2015 team is arguably more talented than that team was. They’re much better defensively up front and in the secondary, have a better receiving corps, and a comparable backfield. A cerebral game manager like Fitzpatrick is tailor-made to guide this team to the playoffs.

The Jets are in a position where they have a good enough team that they do not need a superstar at quarterback to be successful. They can win games behind their dominant defense complimented by an offense that can possess the ball for long stretches and manage the game. That formula worked for the Jets under Rex Ryan in 2009 and 2010, and this year’s team has more talent than either of those squads. The smooth, steady Fitzpatrick is far and away the better choice to quarterback this team than the occasionally brilliant but often bewildering Geno Smith. If Todd Bowles wants to enjoy the same success in his first year that other Jets coaches have had (Rex Ryan, Eric Mangini, and Herm Edwards all made the playoffs in their first year at the helm of Gang Green), Ryan Fitzpatrick needs to be the Jets’ starter come Opening Day.
 
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