Macc On Petty's progress

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Mike Maccagnan on Bryce Petty's Progress
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Randy Lange
Senior Reporter, newyorkjets.com
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Four Points from the Jets GM on the How the Young QB Has Made the Leap from College to the Pros




Heading into the offseason, Jets fans have seen what Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith, the first two quarterbacks on the Green & White depth chart, can do. But they still may not be sure what they've got in now-second-year man Bryce Petty.

General manager Mike Maccagnan said the team's coaches and personnel people are very optimistic about what Petty can bring to the table for 2016 and beyond.
"We're really excited about working with Bryce this offseason," Maccagnan told Jets season ticket holders recently on a special conference call, "and this is going to be a very, very important offseason for him in his development. I think he’s the type of kid who’s going to hopefully fulfill and achieve that. And we’ll get a better feel for where he’s at in the preseason next year and we’ll kind of measure that compared to where he was as a rookie to see how far he’s come along."


Here are four points Maccagnan touched on in giving a progress report for where Petty is as he heads into his second season as a Jets and NFL signalcaller, along with a comment from QBs coach Kevin Patullo about the biggest part of Petty's adjustment from Baylor to the Jets:

1. Arm Strength
Maccagnan: "Bryce is a good athlete for his size, he’s got obviously very good size and stature. He has probably one of the strongest arms of all our quarterbacks in terms of his ability to throw the ball and physically make throws that other quarterbacks can’t make."

2. Intangibles
Maccagnan: "I think from an intangible standpoint, he is what we thought he was when we drafted him. He’s got a very good personality, he’s a very hard-working young man, he’s a very smart young man. He really, I think, has the work ethic and the commitment to hopefully fulfill some of his physical potential."

3. Adjustment from College to the Pros
Maccagnan: "We feel he’s progressed very well from where he was and the system he played in in college. A lot of people understood when we drafted him that there was going to be a bit of an adjustment to the NFL, an NFL system. But it's just the simple fact that he’s out there practicing, in the classroom, understanding things more from a system and decision-making standpoint."
Patullo: "Defensively, that's where there's a big game, between college and pro defenses. There's so much no-huddle, tempo and pressure on the defense. In college they just kind of have to line up and play, where at this level, even if you do any of that kind of stuff, the defensive players are so much more athletic and use so much more complex schemes. That’s where the big gap is, it’s just seeing everything and learning."

4. Prognosis for Year 2
Maccagnan: "We feel ability-wise, he can definitely be a quality No. 2 backup and the rest is kind of up to him. He has the physical ability to potentially be a starting-caliber quarterback, but he still has to go out there and do it on the field in preseason and kind of see where he’s at. But we're very excited about working with him and we do feel he has a bright future."

 

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Like the fact that these guys (MM & TB) don't anoint the young guys for greatness prematurely.
"Prognosis for Year 2
Maccagnan: "We feel ability-wise, he can definitely be a quality No. 2 backup and the rest is kind of up to him. He has the physical ability to potentially be a starting-caliber quarterback, but he still has to go out there and do it on the field in preseason and kind of see where he’s at. But we're very excited about working with him and we do feel he has a bright future."

 

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I expected to hear a rose-tinted viewpoint, but it seems like Macc kept it real... Patullo's part is meh. He doesn't say anything about Petty, despite the intro, he's just talking about the adjustments a QB has to make, not how he's doing. We know there's a difference, especially from Baylor's system, we want to know how he's handling the adjustment!

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I expected to hear a rose-tinted viewpoint, but it seems like Macc kept it real... Patullo's part is meh. He doesn't say anything about Petty, despite the intro, he's just talking about the adjustments a QB has to make, not how he's doing. We know there's a difference, especially from Baylor's system, we want to know how he's handling the adjustment!

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I think he's doing just what Macc said he's doing. Right now he's good enough to be #2. He has the talent to be a starter, he'll have to show them he's ready this summer.

Still don't think he'll start even if he does show them, and I'm good with that. Every day he's on the bench learning from Fitz, he'll b e better off for it when his # is finally called

 

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we will get an idea of what mac, gailey & bowles think of petty based on if & what round we draft a QB..

& yes [MENTION=9]flgreen[/MENTION] i still don't see smith on the '16 roster..

nice to hear mac believes petty has better arm talent than smith.. first time i heard that from him..

 

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we will get an idea of what mac, gailey & bowles think of petty based on if & what round we draft a QB..

& yes [MENTION=9]flgreen[/MENTION] i still don't see smith on the '16 roster..

nice to hear mac believes petty has better arm talent than smith.. first time i heard that from him..

Gailey mentioned last summer that Petty had the strongest arm in camp. When you see him throw, he just cocks his arm behind his ear, and the ball explodes out. No wind up. It's also out very quickly, which IMO is a mark of potential talent. Almost all the great QB's have that quick release. It's actually Brady's biggest asset.

I didn't say that smith WOULD be on the team next year, I've said there are circumstances that he COULD be on the team.

I do not want to see him on the team.

 

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I think he's doing just what Macc said he's doing. Right now he's good enough to be #2. He has the talent to be a starter, he'll have to show them he's ready this summer.

Still don't think he'll start even if he does them, and I'm good with that. Every day he's on the bench learning from Fitz, he'll b e better off for it when his # is finally called

If he goes into the season as "the plan" for #2, I'll be really excited that he's progressing quickly.

 

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I think he's doing just what Macc said he's doing. Right now he's good enough to be #2. He has the talent to be a starter, he'll have to show them he's ready this summer.

Still don't think he'll start even if he does show them, and I'm good with that. Every day he's on the bench learning from Fitz, he'll b e better off for it when his # is finally called

Exactly what I thought as well.... The fact he was the backup for the first 3 games this year told me he was progressing better than they thought and hoped he would....

If anything I feel like Mac is downplaying Petty's progress and rightfully so. I am happy with everything I am hearing from this update

 

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Exactly what I thought as well.... The fact he was the backup for the first 3 games this year told me he was progressing better than they thought and hoped he would....

If anything I feel like Mac is downplaying Petty's progress and rightfully so. I am happy with everything I am hearing from this update

I agree.

IMO, the statement, that he's good enough to be #2, and that his arm is as strong as anyone's on the team, is preparing the fans to what I hope is the inevitable.

 

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Exactly what I thought as well.... The fact he was the backup for the first 3 games this year told me he was progressing better than they thought and hoped he would....

If anything I feel like Mac is downplaying Petty's progress and rightfully so. I am happy with everything I am hearing from this update

Don't read too much into his being #2 for the first two games (Geno was active vs. Philly IIRC). While it's certainly not a bad thing, it's definitely encouraging, but it had as much to do with Flynn and Johnson's performance and the rules regarding guaranteeing the annual salary for players on the week 1 active roster as anything. If Fitz went down week 1 or later and Geno was still inactive, we likely would have signed Flynn or another vet.

 

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Gailey mentioned last summer that Petty had the strongest arm in camp. When you see him throw, he just cocks his arm behind his ear, and the ball explodes out. No wind up. It's also out very quickly, which IMO is a mark of potential talent. Almost all the great QB's have that quick release. It's actually Brady's biggest asset.

I didn't say that smith WOULD be on the team next year, I've said there are circumstances that he COULD be on the team.

I do not want to see him on the team.

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I didn't say that smith WOULD be on the team next year, I've said there are circumstances that he COULD be on the team.

I do not want to see him on the team.

Neither do I, but even if they're committed to getting rid of him they'd still probably be better off, from a practical standpoint, keeping him around and playing him a bit in pre-season and hoping he's a fit for someone desperate for a QB, even if it's for a late round pick or some other minor consideration (maybe Chip Kelly decides he needs like 6 QBs on his roster to run his offense for 16 games? )

I do hope they come away from the draft with a QB that can put some pressure on them to make that decision. Otherwise I think for the money, he's probably the best option.

 

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Neither do I, but even if they're committed to getting rid of him they'd still probably be better off, from a practical standpoint, keeping him around and playing him a bit in pre-season and hoping he's a fit for someone desperate for a QB, even if it's for a late round pick or some other minor consideration (maybe Chip Kelly decides he needs like 6 QBs on his roster to run his offense for 16 games? )

I do hope they come away from the draft with a QB that can put some pressure on them to make that decision. Otherwise I think for the money, he's probably the best option.

if petty earns the backup job next season you don't see smith having a huge problem with being in street clothes on the jets sidelines in '16?? especially based on his delusional last interview this season??

clearly neither side wants to be with the other anymore..

asking for trouble is bad enough but begging for it??

if mac & bowles bring back smith, they will be begging for trouble.. my opinion anyway..

 

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if petty earns the backup job next season you don't see smith having a huge problem with being in street clothes on the jets sidelines in '16?? especially based on his delusional last interview this season??

clearly neither side wants to be with the other anymore..

asking for trouble is bad enough but begging for it??

if mac & bowles bring back smith, they will be begging for trouble.. my opinion anyway..

Oh, I definitely do see Smith wanting out if he's the #3 - that's why you've got to play him in pre-season and hope he shows enough so that when his agent goes hunting for a team, he finds one. On experience and his few highlight games, I think a team that needs a #2 (or even one that loses their #1 in pre-season) can convince themselves that he's got upside. Or at least that they know his downside and think they can manage it. I mean take a look at the backups that got bumped to start for any period of time this year - seems like half of them got cut after a week or two, and most of those that remained were clearly liabilities. Hell, two played, got cut, and teams were so desperate that they were signed by other teams and played in the same season, right? That's as good a statement as any to the dismal state of the position.

Off the top of my head, the Colts, Steelers, Cowboys, Ravens, Texans, Rams and probably Cleveland will all be looking for at least a semi-competent backup, and some need a QB1 too. And that's just the teams who got exposed this year when their starters went down. You would have thought Tennessee had one of the better backups, but even he stunk in limited action.

 

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I also think Macc's response when asked about Geno - "he's under contract" speaks volumes on two levels: he's got nothing good to say regarding his play or progress, but also, "it's our decision what we do with him." I mean Geno can't go full asshole if he wants someone to trade for or sign him, even as a backup.

 

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Oh, I definitely do see Smith wanting out if he's the #3 - that's why you've got to play him in pre-season and hope he shows enough so that when his agent goes hunting for a team, he finds one. On experience and his few highlight games, I think a team that needs a #2 (or even one that loses their #1 in pre-season) can convince themselves that he's got upside. Or at least that they know his downside and think they can manage it. I mean take a look at the backups that got bumped to start for any period of time this year - seems like half of them got cut after a week or two, and most of those that remained were clearly liabilities. Hell, two played, got cut, and teams were so desperate that they were signed by other teams and played in the same season, right? That's as good a statement as any to the dismal state of the position.

Off the top of my head, the Colts, Steelers, Cowboys, Ravens, Texans, Rams and probably Cleveland will all be looking for at least a semi-competent backup, and some need a QB1 too. And that's just the teams who got exposed this year when their starters went down. You would have thought Tennessee had one of the better backups, but even he stunk in limited action.

rational well thought out post..

if smith can still lands us say a conditional 7th, is that enough reason to give him potential snaps in preseason over petty??

i'm not sure it is..

my thinking is that as you mentioned, with the state of both starters & backup QB's in the league, let's concern ourselves with giving the one we still have hope for every chance to succeed over one we have absolutely given up on..

 

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rational well thought out post..

if smith can still lands us say a conditional 7th, is that enough reason to give him potential snaps in preseason over petty??

i'm not sure it is..

my thinking is that as you mentioned, with the state of both starters & backup QB's in the league, let's concern ourselves with giving the one we still have hope for every chance to succeed over one we have absolutely given up on..

Thanks for the compliment... I see your point, but let's face it of Fitz is our guy next year, and I think most expect him to be, he should take the bare minimum of snaps that he needs to get ready. Considering his age, inability to slide, propensity for injury, and the fact that we'll have many returning skill position personnel, I think protecting him in pre-season is a no-brainer. I think there should be plenty of snaps to go around for Smith, Petty and whoever they bring in.

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Don't read too much into his being #2 for the first two games (Geno was active vs. Philly IIRC). While it's certainly not a bad thing, it's definitely encouraging, but it had as much to do with Flynn and Johnson's performance and the rules regarding guaranteeing the annual salary for players on the week 1 active roster as anything. If Fitz went down week 1 or later and Geno was still inactive, we likely would have signed Flynn or another vet.

For a league minimum guarantee for either Flynn or Johnson you keep them on the roster. For a team like the Jets every game is important.. Plenty of cap space to guarantee another QB's salary.. I completely think the Jets were and are ok with Petty being the #2 and feel he is progressing to be the #1... If we draft a QB early say somewhere in the first 3rds we are stacking the deck and making sure we have a QB of the future on the roster that doesn't need to be rushed (assuming we sign Fitz).. If we take one late or not at all I think it continues to support my stance that the team is feeling very good about Petty but keeping the enthusiasm close to the vest.

 

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For a league minimum guarantee for either Flynn or Johnson you keep them on the roster. For a team like the Jets every game is important.. Plenty of cap space to guarantee another QB's salary.. I completely think the Jets were and are ok with Petty being the #2 and feel he is progressing to be the #1... If we draft a QB early say somewhere in the first 3rds we are stacking the deck and making sure we have a QB of the future on the roster that doesn't need to be rushed (assuming we sign Fitz).. If we take one late or not at all I think it continues to support my stance that the team is feeling very good about Petty but keeping the enthusiasm close to the vest.

League minimum for Johnson was $745,000 and Flynn $870,000. Or roll the dice for a week, and sign someone temporarily of you need - though at that point they probably knew or at least suspected that Geno would be available week 3.

Though I did say, probably had something to do with their play (skill level/grasp of the O) as well, and you're right, their faith in Petty, whatever it was, had to be a factor too. If they had absolutely no confidence in him, they would have paid one of the vets, I'm sure. But if you're saying they were comfortable with Petty possibly playing multiple games, I don't get that impression from anything I've heard/read.