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Patriots being petty as NFL investigates Darrelle Revis' return to Jets

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, March 19, 2015, 9:32 PM A A A

Darrelle Revis signed with Jets day after becoming free agent and Pats likely had something to do with NFL visiting Gang during ‘legal tampering’ period.
The NFL’s fight for truth, justice and the American way ventured into the ridiculous two days before Darrelle Revis agreed to a blockbuster deal to return to the Jets.

The league sent an investigator to the Jets facility in Florham Park, N.J., on Sunday, March 8, during the three-day “legal tampering” window before the official start of free agency to interrogate general manager Mike Maccagnan and front office personnel about the pursuit of Revis, according to sources.

Owner Woody Johnson was not interviewed.

The NFL’s attempt to uncover any dirt was an exercise in futility, a witch hunt driven by nonsense from a hypocritical organization with no reason to feel threatened by its competitor.

The Patriots levied a tampering charge against their division foes shortly after Johnson’s public admission on Dec. 29 that he’d “love for Darrelle to come back,” prompting many to wonder how serious the NFL would consider the complaint.

The Patriots, of course, have been the model of fair play (SpyGate), rule-abiding negotiations (landing Revis in record time after the Buccaneers cut him) and trustworthy pre-game equipment management (DeflateGate), so they naturally had every right to be concerned about the integrity of this situation.

Johnson’s comments three months ago in response to a direct question about the perennial Pro Bowler violated the NFL Anti-Tampering policy as written, but the owner’s words had nothing to do with Revis’ ultimate decision to part ways with the Super Bowl champions.

The Jets had the financial resources ($39 million in fully guaranteed money) and the locale (Manhattan > middle of nowhere, Mass.) that appealed to Revis. The Patriots were out of the Revis sweepstakes a full day before the Jets agreed to terms on a 5-year, $70 million deal, according to sources.

It made sense for the cornerback-needy Jets to be so aggressive to land Revis, who will turn 30 this summer.

“Champ (Bailey) was able to play at a very high level well into his 30s,” Maccagnan said in a conference call on Thursday. “I kind of view Darrelle in the same (way). He’s playing at a very high level. We thought he could potentially be able to play at a high level for a number of years going forward, so we thought it was worth the financial investment.”

Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick, who didn’t have the cash to keep the cornerstone of the Super Bowl-winning defense, have accomplished too much to use a silly league rule to wage an even sillier war.

Sure, Johnson should have refrained from his public praise for Revis, but Kraft and Belichick have been far from choir boys when it comes to this player.

Jets owner Woody Johnson, who is hit with tampering allegations involving Revis last year, but he is not interviewed by the NFL last week.

Jets owner Woody Johnson, who is hit with tampering allegations involving Revis last year, but he is not interviewed by the NFL last week.
Think about how Revis arrived in Foxborough in the first place.

The Buccaneers officially released Revis at 3:53 p.m. EDT on March 12, 2014. Less than five hours later — 8:23 pm EDT — the Patriots amazingly agreed to terms on a contract with the star cornerback. Who knew that Kraft and Belichick could broker a deal for a player with so many options in warp speed?

Is it possible that they negotiated the parameters of a deal with Team Revis while the cornerback was still under contract with the Buccaneers? No chance! The Patriots would never engage in such questionable tactics (insert eye roll here).

The annual NFL Scouting Combine has become a haven for league-wide tampering in the run-up to free agency. The NFL has turned a blind eye, because it’s impossible to prove without a paper/email trail that no team is dumb enough to leave.

Kraft is too good of an owner to be so petty. Johnson called Kraft shortly after his comments about Revis to offer a good-faith apology. The matter should have died after that December conversation, but the Patriots ratcheted up the animus between the franchises by complaining to the league.

Meanwhile, Patriots fans, draped in Super Bowl gear for the fourth time in the Brady-Belichick era, are out for blood after Revis’ departure. Like a jilted lover, these people want to exact revenge on an organization that really seems to get under their skin.

The Lions were nabbed for tampering in 2011 after then-defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham said he’d like to “catch” any Chiefs players who might shake loose. The NFL stripped Detroit of a seventh-round pick and swapped both team’s fifth-round picks.

In 2008, the 49ers were stripped of a fifth-rounder and swapped third-rounders with the Bears for tampering with linebacker Lance Briggs.

No matter how worked up the Patriots and their fans get, this won’t change: Revis is gone.

Please stop whining.
 
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Well if any one was wondering why the Jets weren't offering any contracts to FA's early in the legal tampering period, while the rest of the league were coming to agreements with guys left and right, including 2 guards everyone thought the Jets were going to be aggressive with, this is the answer.

Macc was holding hands with a league investigator the first day. What a joke.

Perfect timing. What a surprise
 
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What the F happened to deflategate? why was is swept under the rug? we were promised an end to the investigation within a few weeks after the superbowl. What happened?
 

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Pats won the SB. They can't say they are cheaters now. We will never hear about this again.
 

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It's like the white collar criminal with a history of money laundering and embezzlement lecturing young people on the horrors of violent crime in America. Kraft does a great job pointing out everyone else's mistakes.
 

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I asked about deflategate over on JN. A pat fan replied that punishments are always doled out during league meetings the last week of March. If that's true, we should hear something within the next 2 weeks or so.
 
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It's not the fact that the NFL sent an investigator to the Jets, It is the timing of it that clearly makes me feel that Roger is actually taking direction from Kraft.

A complaint was filed by another team, an investigator had to be dispatched. If he had come this week, or the week after Woody put his foot in his mouth, No problem.

He was sent on one of the most busiest days on the NFL calender for a GM. The 3 day "legal tampering" rule is clear that no agreements may be reached during this period. It is even forbidden to propose a contract to a player or his agent. The opening day of the period, the entire NFL blatantly defied the rule. "agreement/contracts" were flying out left and right. Several players the Jets were interested in, came to agreements The Jets didn't offer anyone any thing. At JN every one was debating 'What's going on? Are these guys asleep at the switch"?

As it turns out they couldn't. Their GM, and all of the people involved in pro player personnel, were being interrogated about Kraft's complaint. The NFL was looking over the shoulder of every interview the Jets conducted. They were the only team in the league that was subjected to this.

The timing of this investigation was clearly intended to hog tie, and put the Jets at a serious disadvantage, in negotiating with FA's. At Bob Kraft's request.

This is more then just Jets fans whining because the Pats won the Super Bowl. IMO this is undeniable evidence that Roger is catering to Blob Kraft, and intentionally giving the Pats a competitive advantage at every opportunity.

This is very serious business for a multi Billion dollar corporation that must have the trust of the fans to continue.
 
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Patriots being petty as NFL investigates Darrelle Revis' return to Jets

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, March 19, 2015, 9:32 PM A A A

Darrelle Revis signed with Jets day after becoming free agent and Pats likely had something to do with NFL visiting Gang during ‘legal tampering’ period.
The NFL’s fight for truth, justice and the American way ventured into the ridiculous two days before Darrelle Revis agreed to a blockbuster deal to return to the Jets.

The league sent an investigator to the Jets facility in Florham Park, N.J., on Sunday, March 8, during the three-day “legal tampering” window before the official start of free agency to interrogate general manager Mike Maccagnan and front office personnel about the pursuit of Revis, according to sources.

Owner Woody Johnson was not interviewed.

The NFL’s attempt to uncover any dirt was an exercise in futility, a witch hunt driven by nonsense from a hypocritical organization with no reason to feel threatened by its competitor.

The Patriots levied a tampering charge against their division foes shortly after Johnson’s public admission on Dec. 29 that he’d “love for Darrelle to come back,” prompting many to wonder how serious the NFL would consider the complaint.

The Patriots, of course, have been the model of fair play (SpyGate), rule-abiding negotiations (landing Revis in record time after the Buccaneers cut him) and trustworthy pre-game equipment management (DeflateGate), so they naturally had every right to be concerned about the integrity of this situation.

Johnson’s comments three months ago in response to a direct question about the perennial Pro Bowler violated the NFL Anti-Tampering policy as written, but the owner’s words had nothing to do with Revis’ ultimate decision to part ways with the Super Bowl champions.

The Jets had the financial resources ($39 million in fully guaranteed money) and the locale (Manhattan > middle of nowhere, Mass.) that appealed to Revis. The Patriots were out of the Revis sweepstakes a full day before the Jets agreed to terms on a 5-year, $70 million deal, according to sources.

It made sense for the cornerback-needy Jets to be so aggressive to land Revis, who will turn 30 this summer.

“Champ (Bailey) was able to play at a very high level well into his 30s,” Maccagnan said in a conference call on Thursday. “I kind of view Darrelle in the same (way). He’s playing at a very high level. We thought he could potentially be able to play at a high level for a number of years going forward, so we thought it was worth the financial investment.”

Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick, who didn’t have the cash to keep the cornerstone of the Super Bowl-winning defense, have accomplished too much to use a silly league rule to wage an even sillier war.

Sure, Johnson should have refrained from his public praise for Revis, but Kraft and Belichick have been far from choir boys when it comes to this player.

Jets owner Woody Johnson, who is hit with tampering allegations involving Revis last year, but he is not interviewed by the NFL last week.

Jets owner Woody Johnson, who is hit with tampering allegations involving Revis last year, but he is not interviewed by the NFL last week.
Think about how Revis arrived in Foxborough in the first place.

The Buccaneers officially released Revis at 3:53 p.m. EDT on March 12, 2014. Less than five hours later — 8:23 pm EDT — the Patriots amazingly agreed to terms on a contract with the star cornerback. Who knew that Kraft and Belichick could broker a deal for a player with so many options in warp speed?

Is it possible that they negotiated the parameters of a deal with Team Revis while the cornerback was still under contract with the Buccaneers? No chance! The Patriots would never engage in such questionable tactics (insert eye roll here).

The annual NFL Scouting Combine has become a haven for league-wide tampering in the run-up to free agency. The NFL has turned a blind eye, because it’s impossible to prove without a paper/email trail that no team is dumb enough to leave.

Kraft is too good of an owner to be so petty. Johnson called Kraft shortly after his comments about Revis to offer a good-faith apology. The matter should have died after that December conversation, but the Patriots ratcheted up the animus between the franchises by complaining to the league.

Meanwhile, Patriots fans, draped in Super Bowl gear for the fourth time in the Brady-Belichick era, are out for blood after Revis’ departure. Like a jilted lover, these people want to exact revenge on an organization that really seems to get under their skin.

The Lions were nabbed for tampering in 2011 after then-defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham said he’d like to “catch” any Chiefs players who might shake loose. The NFL stripped Detroit of a seventh-round pick and swapped both team’s fifth-round picks.

In 2008, the 49ers were stripped of a fifth-rounder and swapped third-rounders with the Bears for tampering with linebacker Lance Briggs.

No matter how worked up the Patriots and their fans get, this won’t change: Revis is gone.
Please stop whining
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"petty" You have got to be kidding, if the rolls were reversed Jet fans would be calling this "Tamper Gate" and screaming for the Patriots to be thrown out of the league. At least try and be a little objective. Oh and please now all of a sudden some are going to use the "everyone else was doing it", so it's ok excuse???? The bottom line is that what Woody said on camera alone is by the NFL definition, tampering, case closed regardless of anything else the investigation uncovers. Jet jets will be fined and the Patriots will be awarded some kind of draft pick compensation.
 

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It's not the fact that the NFL sent an investigator to the Jets, It is the timing of it that clearly makes me feel that Roger is actually taking direction from Kraft.

A complaint was filed by another team, an investigator had to be dispatched. If he had come this week, or the week after Woody put his foot in his mouth, No problem.

He was sent on one of the most busiest days on the NFL calender for a GM. The 3 day "legal tampering" rule is clear that no agreements may be reached during this period. It is even forbidden to propose a contract to a player or his agent. The opening day of the period, the entire NFL blatantly defied the rule. "agreement/contracts" were flying out left and right. Several players the Jets were interested in, came to agreements The Jets didn't offer anyone any thing. At JN every one was debating 'What's going on? Are these guys asleep at the switch"?

As it turns out they couldn't. Their GM, and all of the people involved in pro player personnel, were being interrogated about Kraft's complaint. The NFL was looking over the shoulder of every interview the Jets conducted. They were the only team in the league that was subjected to this.

The timing of this investigation was clearly intended to hog tie, and put the Jets at a serious disadvantage, in negotiating with FA's. At Bob Kraft's request.

This is more then just Jets fans whining because the Pats won the Super Bowl. IMO this is undeniable evidence that Roger is catering to Blob Kraft, and intentionally giving the Pats a competitive advantage at every opportunity.

This is very serious business for a multi Billion dollar corporation that must have the trust of the fans to continue.


Not to mention the fact that Maccagnan and his staff weren't even employed by the Jets when Woody made his harmless remark.

And, you know what, if Woody WAS tampering...it worked. So, mission accomplished.

GFY Chowds.
 
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flgreen

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"petty" You have got to be kidding, if the rolls were reversed Jet fans would be calling this "Tamper Gate" and screaming for the Patriots to be thrown out of the league. At least try and be a little objective. Oh and please now all of a sudden some are going to use the "everyone else was doing it", so it's ok excuse???? The bottom line is that what Woody said on camera alone is by the NFL definition, tampering, case closed regardless of anything else the investigation uncovers. Jet jets will be fined and the Patriots will be awarded some kind of draft pick compensation.

There is no, "everybody else was doing it" scenario here. Woody in answer to a direct question regarding Revis misspoke, and said he didn't know Revis agent had contacted the Jets last yer, "and he would love to have Revis on the team". Yep that's in violation of NFL policy. It deserved a reprimand.

The fact that NFL investigators came to the Jets complex to interrogate pro personnel, on the second most important day of the year in developing a team, is way beyond coincidence.
 
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There is no, "everybody else was doing it" scenario here. Woody in answer to a direct question regarding Revis misspoke, and said he didn't know Revis agent had contacted the Jets last yer, "and he would love to have Revis on the team". Yep that's in violation of NFL policy. It deserved a reprimand. The fact that NFL investigators came to the Jets complex to interrogate pro personnel, on the second most important day of the year in developing a team, is way beyond coincidence.

If it was the first time Woody opened his mouth then I would agree a reprimand would be appropriate, however the NFL has already reprimanded Woody for doing this previously with another teams player. Additionally what I think you're forgetting is that there was no "legal" tampering period for Revis, that rule is reserved for impending free agents, Revis was under contract until deadline for the Patriots to pick up the 2nd year bonus passed. In fact even when the Patriots announced that they weren't going to pick up that bonus, teams where still by NFL rule prohibited from speaking to him until the deadline date for that option passed. As for the timing of the investigation of course the NFL swooped in to see if the Jets had been illegally in contact with a Patriots player. What should they do wait months so the evidence can be buried? Now if all that comes of this is Woody's stupidity with not being able to keep his mouth shut, then you're talking about a fine maybe 6 or 7 pick. However if the investigation shows that the Jets had contact with him or his agents during the so called "legal tampering period", then all bets are off and Jets fans may be in for a shock at how severe the punishment is.
 

Johnny Unite Us

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Woody's comments were made at room temperature. It wasn't until they were heard in 40 degree weather that they became tampering.

Am I doing this right, Chowds?

GFY
 

LIJETFAN

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Woody's comments were made at room temperature. It wasn't until they were heard in 40 degree weather that they became tampering.

Am I doing this right, Chowds?

GFY

The Patriots are not a team that gets to suddenly stand on the moral high ground. The response from Pats fans is ludicrous. My advice to the Pats fans is just take your Lombardi Trophy and move on. You lost Revis. Stop whining and get over it.
 

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The Patriots are not a team that gets to suddenly stand on the moral high ground. The response from Pats fans is ludicrous. My advice to the Pats fans is just take your Lombardi Trophy and move on. You lost Revis. Stop whining and get over it.

Exactly. No team involved in Spygate and Deflategate should be preaching about rules and ethics to anyone. Get over it.

What Woody said was inappropriate and should be penalized with a late round pick, at worst.
 
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The Patriots are not a team that gets to suddenly stand on the moral high ground. The response from Pats fans is ludicrous. My advice to the Pats fans is just take your Lombardi Trophy and move on. You lost Revis. Stop whining and get over it.

What high ground are you talking about? Are you saying that the Jets shouldn't be punished because it's the Patriots? Look tampering, is tampering no matter who does it, it's against the rules and Jets fans have loved telling Patriots fans about the rules when it suited their argument, now apparently the Jets are on the hot seat and all of a sudden "The rules don't matter" ?? Next the Jets fans will be saying everyone does it and it didn't make difference to the signing.
 
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If it was the first time Woody opened his mouth then I would agree a reprimand would be appropriate, however the NFL has already reprimanded Woody for doing this previously with another teams player. Additionally what I think you're forgetting is that there was no "legal" tampering period for Revis, that rule is reserved for impending free agents, Revis was under contract until deadline for the Patriots to pick up the 2nd year bonus passed. In fact even when the Patriots announced that they weren't going to pick up that bonus, teams where still by NFL rule prohibited from speaking to him until the deadline date for that option passed. As for the timing of the investigation of course the NFL swooped in to see if the Jets had been illegally in contact with a Patriots player. What should they do wait months so the evidence can be buried? Now if all that comes of this is Woody's stupidity with not being able to keep his mouth shut, then you're talking about a fine maybe 6 or 7 pick. However if the investigation shows that the Jets had contact with him or his agents during the so called "legal tampering period", then all bets are off and Jets fans may be in for a shock at how severe the punishment is.



So I assume since you are an advocate of the severe penalties for repeat offenders scenario, considering how the Pats have disregarded league rules, in actual game situations since Belichick arrived, clearly cheating in Super Bowls, and play off games. Considering the disproportionate severity of the Pat offenses , I'm sure You would be in favor of a public hanging of both Lil Bill, and Bob.

I'm good with that. Jets give up a 7th round draft pick, I get to throw a party to watch two loathsome people get hung on TV.

I'm in
 

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Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · Mar 16

Tampering RT @e_man: Robert Kraft jabs at Jets, gives cryptic Darrelle Revis remark http://bit.ly/1x7SaIC #Jets



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So I assume since you are an advocate of the severe penalties for repeat offenders scenario, considering how the Pats have disregarded league rules, in actual game situations since Belichick arrived, clearly cheating in Super Bowls, and play off games. Considering the disproportionate severity of the Pat offenses , I'm sure You would be in favor of a public hanging of both Lil Bill, and Bob.

I'm good with that. Jets give up a 7th round draft pick, I get to throw a party to watch two loathsome people get hung on TV.

I'm in

The funny thing is I would actually agree with you if any of the nonsense you accuse them of was true. In point of fact the Patriots were penalized for one single offense, taping defensive signals from a prohibited spot on the field. They did it, they paid for it, end of story. The rest is pure nonsense that jealous Jet fans obviously like yourself spew for no other reason than to make yourself feel better about how little your team has given you for going half a century now. At the end of the day guys like you would chew your own arm off to have half the team and organization the Patriots are. I sleep well knowing that. :)
 

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The funny thing is I would actually agree with you if any of the nonsense you accuse them of was true. In point of fact the Patriots were penalized for one single offense, taping defensive signals from a prohibited spot on the field. They did it, they paid for it, end of story. The rest is pure nonsense that jealous Jet fans obviously like yourself spew for no other reason than to make yourself feel better about how little your team has given you for going half a century now. At the end of the day guys like you would chew your own arm off to have half the team and organization the Patriots are. I sleep well knowing that. :)

Trolling anyone?
 
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