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I have a sense that if Petty did not get injured and led the Jets to two more scoring drives, then Bowles hands him the #2 with Smith getting traded people would have been lauding Bowle and MM for the masterful job in handling the QB situation. [sorry for the run-on sentence] The great thing about hindsight is that we can always be right. :global (41):
 

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I have a sense that if Petty did not get injured and led the Jets to two more scoring drives, then Bowles hands him the #2 with Smith getting traded people would have been lauding Bowle and MM for the masterful job in handling the QB situation. [sorry for the run-on sentence] The great thing about hindsight is that we can always be right. :global (41):
so the same people that have been skeptical of the way bowles handled the backup QB situation, would have done a complete 180° if petty got the job??

one, i personally don't think bowles ever intended to name petty the backup.. if the job was to be won on merit, it would seem to me, smith would have been the guy running for his life against the eagles, not petty..

& two.. you're basically calling the people here that believe bowles did an awful job handling this non competition, competition hypocrites..
 
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BlindsideD'Brick

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You don't see the contradiction in your own statement?

Your mantra is that "no bubble wrap belongs in this game for a depth player" Yet, for some mysterious reason smith was put in "bubble rap" for the 4th game. In contraction to league precedent smith was rested like a starter for game 4, even though according to most of the scribes who tweed every play during practice, and wrote numerous articles about it, and rational fans who actually watched the games, was out played by Petty over the last month.

IMO there are only 2 explanations.

1) Ham is right, and Bowles never had an intention of of playing the best QB, but rather has a phobia of young QB's, and was going with the vet no matter what.

2) Dan is right and the drama was orchestrated to try and get a "bag of rocks" for smith. Either way the plan was a bad one. The Jets now have a promising young QB with a shoulder injury who is either going to lose all his developmental reps for the year by going on IR, or the Jets can't pull off his trade coupe for smith, because the QB with the higher potential is now injured.

Yes, it was not handled well. Best players should play. Petty was the better player this summer, and has by far the higher upside, and future with the Jets. smith has no future here at all

I have no idea why Geno Smith didn't play against the Eagles. Only Bowles knows that. Bowles, and the fans who presume to know the "real reasons" why everything happens. I agree that the 2nd team o-line was atrocious, but that doesn't mean you don't play Petty. There's nothing unusual about a backup QB playing with backup linemen in the last preseason game. Happens in every single game played. If you're worried about a player getting injured, that's the same logic (IMO) as not getting in your car and driving to work because you're worried about getting injured in a 5 car pile up.

I'm not seeing the logic beyond blaming Bowles for this. But that's just me.
 
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I have no idea why Geno Smith didn't play against the Eagles. Only Bowles knows that. Bowles, and the fans who presume to know the "real reasons" why everything happens. I agree that the 2nd team o-line was atrocious, but that doesn't mean you don't play Petty. There's nothing unusual about a backup QB playing with backup linemen in the last preseason game. Happens in every single game played. If you're worried about a player getting injured, that's the same logic (IMO) as not getting in your car and driving to work because you're worried about getting injured in a 5 car pile up.

I'm not seeing the logic beyond blaming Bowles for this. But that's just me.

I guess putting "Blind" in your screen name was a good idea then
 

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It seems to always be so contentious on this board. I am sensing the JI culture won out over the scout culture.
 

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It seems to always be so contentious on this board. I am sensing the JI culture won out over the scout culture.
I don't get that feeling, Sack, I think its just a natural mixture of optimists, pessimists and neither of the two. You have to accept that you're gonna get a little of each, don't let it bother you. If I see opinions that are too pessimistic for my taste, I just ignore it and move on to the next one. I figure everyone is entitled to their opinion and sometimes its not worth the trouble trying to change their minds. Sometimes I'll engage it if I'm in the mood, but most of the time I just keep moving.
 
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I don't get that feeling, Sack, I think its just a natural mixture of optimists, pessimists and neither of the two. You have to accept that you're gonna get a little of each don't let it bother you. If I see opinions that are too pessimistic for my taste, I just ignore it and move on to the next one. I figure everyone is entitled to their opinion and sometimes its not worth the trouble trying to change their minds. Sometimes I'll engage it if I'm in the mood, but most of the time I just keep moving.

I suppose so. And to some degree, there were some pretty big battles over at scout during its heyday. But it seems to denigrate to personal insults pretty quickly here.
 

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I suppose so. And to some degree, there were some pretty big battles over at scout during its heyday. But it seems to denigrate to personal insults pretty quickly here.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, this board is much more lenient in allowing people to resort to personal attacks. Scout enforced the policy more often than not. JFU has a higher tolerance for people being really obnoxious in this forum. Its been an adjustment for me, that's for sure.
 

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Let's leave the JI/Scout culture talk behind for a minute.

Most of the guys that are here and talk are not even JI guys. As for stuff being contentious here, I agree, it's not always disrespectful though. It does get to that level at times and yes we are a bit lenient. I appreciate the thick skin. Certain topics bring out the nastiness of people but for the most part we are very respectful to each other. We are a small board with big personalities. It's not easy but it will work out. This is our second season. You guys made it through a season and a half together. Lol
 

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Right, wrong, or indifferent, this board is much more lenient in allowing people to resort to personal attacks. Scout enforced the policy more often than not. JFU has a higher tolerance for people being really obnoxious in this forum. Its been an adjustment for me, that's for sure.

thank you. I appreciate your feedback and for continuing giving JFU a chance.
 

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completely unnecessary shot at former JI members..

not appreciated..

I hope one day we can all get past this JI/Scout divide. It's proven to be a bigger problem than I thought but it's a great example of how even the smallest of things have culture. To be honest when we merged it was supposed to be me and Machina running the show but he had two kids and I don't think he wanted the responsibility of running the board. He was also more tech savvy than me so I may have annoyed him with the simpler things.

Psychologists would love to research us. (Maybe not)

We are jets fans first!!
 

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Als, forgot to mention, we are actually three boards. GMF had his own well managed board before coming here with a few users. This place is nuts lol

I'm a fan of each and every one of you so when you guys are at each other's throats it's kind of disappointing. I never posted much, if at all, on JI but I did read almost every post. That's how I learned the sport so when I opened this board it was so I can continue to learn from great football fans. I still get that here so that's much appreciated!
 

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Let's leave the JI/Scout culture talk behind for a minute.

Most of the guys that are here and talk are not even JI guys. As for stuff being contentious here, I agree, it's not always disrespectful though. It does get to that level at times and yes we are a bit lenient. I appreciate the thick skin. Certain topics bring out the nastiness of people but for the most part we are very respectful to each other. We are a small board with big personalities. It's not easy but it will work out. This is our second season. You guys made it through a season and a half together. Lol

I know. It just seems there is more of a tendency to want to allow for discussions to turn personal, which was far more the JI culture than the scout culture. JI was more lenient, scout was more heavy-handed.

I don't apologize for acknowledging the truth that the two boards were pretty close to polar opposites. That doesn't mean we can't find common ground, but it takes some give-and-take on both sides.
 

SackExchange

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completely unnecessary shot at former JI members..

not appreciated..

It's actually a shot at both boards. Scout was rightly viewed as being heavy-handed in preventing arguments from becoming personal, and JI was rightly viewed as being lenient.

I make no apologies for acknowledging the truth about both boards.
 
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