Rob Ryan to join Buffalo Bills defensive staff

[SackExchange]

Not with the teams being exactly the same as they were the year before..Sparano took a 1-15 Fin team to the playoffs year one 2008 and the Tuna didn't in 1997.. In both cases changes were made.. As far as Rex goes then he took a 9-7 Mangini team with a future HOF QB to 9-7 with a rookie QB and made the AFCCG.. It's easy to play this game..

True. The Jets spent a lot of cap money to improve.

Bowles did, though, take a QB who had never finished above .500 to a 10-6 record.

 

[flgreen]

I don't think there's hatred,.

Maybe you should read some of LGM's posts. :14:

Interesting thing is a year before he was fired LGM loved Rex. Go figure

 

[SackExchange]

Maybe you should read some of LGM's posts. :14:

Interesting thing is a year before he was fired LGM loved Rex. Go figure

Well, I think some of his posts are meant to get under the skin of certain posters here. I wish that wasn't the case.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Who feels better about the immediate future?

Bills fans or Jets fans?

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Great hiring for Buffalo in Rob Ryan. His defense's have been terrible in recent years. Rex and Rob will be the most penalized team in the NFL. Mark it down.

 

[jets82]

Guys, I really don't understand all the hate for Rex here. He took us to back to back afccg. Noone else has done that. we normally get to 1 every decade at best. Yeah he stunk after that but so did every other Jet team after also. And the quality of players went downhill each year at no fault of Rex.

Unlike the dirtbag cheaterchick, Rex didn't leave because he wanted to. he was canned at least partially because of Idzik. Rex was actually dumb enough to want to stay with this cursed franchise his entire career. No one else will ever say that.

Now he's on the Bills and of course he wants to beat the team that canned him. i would too. He actually said when interviewed that he had a lot of friends on the Jets and he wanted them to succeed, just not at his expense.

He may be a big mouth dumby and he may or may not be a good coach, who knows but if we are going to focus our hatred on anyone lets collectively focus on someone who deserves it - cheaterchick and his band of cheaters

now if Rex does to us what cheaterchick has done to us for the next 15 years then we can all hate the big loudmouth too

and for the record, I hated losing to the Bills as much as anyone but I don't blame Rex. I blame the Jets or at least the Jets curse

I'm sorry but were truly going to have to agree to disagree here. Woody and Tanny loved the ground Rex walked on and gave Rex whatever he wanted, that was team personnel also. Now during the Idzik years that appeared not to be the case but the damage had already been done the first four years. So Rex had everything to do with those player personnel moves and draft choices. Meaning he's just as responsible for destroying the team as Tanny and probably Idzik was.

 

[Elias]

Who feels better about the immediate future?

Bills fans or Jets fans?

Not even a question! It has to be us.

 

[cheaterhater]

I'm sorry but were truly going to have to agree to disagree here. Woody and Tanny loved the ground Rex walked on and gave Rex whatever he wanted, that was team personnel also. Now during the Idzik years that appeared not to be the case but the damage had already been done the first four years. So Rex had everything to do with those player personnel moves and draft choices. Meaning he's just as responsible for destroying the team as Tanny and probably Idzik was.

I'm not saying Rex is perfect or anything just that there is no reason to hate him or even root against him unless he's playing us. He not cheaterchick. He's a likeable guy

Losing Faneca and Woody was as large part of why the Jets started to decline. Not sure that was Rex Tanny fault but just age, injury and then never found thevrighht replacement. Online is so important. Just look at Brady who until this year has had 10 seconds to find an open receiver. Every time.

Then of course our secondary totally went away which certainly wasn't what Rex wanted. Rex had us within a field goal of beating the cheaters, (i think in all 3 of his last games against them?) With the worst secondary ever. Gotta give him credit for that

 

[cheaterhater]

Not even a question! It has to be us.

Not that I ever have faith in what the jets are doing but I have to agree here. Much as I like Rex, I don't think buffalo is a good place and especially not with his brother

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

If Todd Bowles had problems with a star player, much like Ryan had with Mario Williams, he'd be getting crushed by some fans. Bowles would be incompetent and unfit to be a head coach. Calls for his firing would be all over the place.

But Defensive Genius Rex can't figure out how to use a star player, and he's still a much better coach than Bowles. It's crazy how some fans think going backwards with a coach who completely lost control over this team in the end is a better option than a first year head coach who got this team to 10-6.

Yes, Bowles was given more via FA this past offseason. But people who blame Idzik for screwing Rex are refusing to see the bigger picture: Rex's act got stale after six years. Under Bowles: accountability matters. Under Rex: players get to be themselves to the extent of an out of control fraternity keg party.

 

[Mainejet]

You're right. You had not used that word.

Getting back to your original post, I think the Jets have more bragging rights than the Bills. 10-6 trumps 8-8.

Who gives a sh*t about bragging rights?! That's completely foolish. The Jets beat the Patsies a few weeks ago does that give you "bragging rights" when the Patsies will be playing in the playoffs this weekend?

So I guess in your world, if the Jets have a better record than said team and lost the season series to them then he Jets are still better than them, right? But if it's the Patsies you still have bragging rights the Jets beat them face to face? Sounds like fairy tale land to me.

 

[hobson54]

So I guess in your world, if the Jets have a better record than said team and lost the season series to them then he Jets are still better than them, right?

well yeah. if one team is 8-8 and the other team is 10-6, and they played largely the same schedule (only 2 games varied), then i think the team with 10 wins was the better team than the team with 8 wins over the course of a 16 week season.

do you think 8 wins is better than 10??? since you previously went on and on about simple math, last i check, 10 > 8. do you disagree?

 

[jetgreen13]

well yeah. if one team is 8-8 and the other team is 10-6, and they played largely the same schedule (only 2 games varied), then i think the team with 10 wins was the better team than the team with 8 wins over the course of a 16 week season.

do you think 8 wins is better than 10??? since you previously went on and on about simple math, last i check, 10 > 8. do you disagree?

semantics.. neither team made the playoffs but the bills personally knocked us out of the them..

advantage bills..

 

[Mainejet]

semantics.. neither team made the playoffs but the bills personally knocked us out of the them..

advantage bills..

Jetgreen13, you should have known better than to respond to that. The guy takes my post completely out of context and tries to play on it. Lame at best. But that's what happens to posters around here. They get so defensive because their team lost and they'd rather split hairs and argue than face facts.

Personally, myself as a Jets fan, I'd rather face the facts. Knowing them and understanding them is the only way this team gets better. I just hope the CS knows it and doesn't act like the half the posters on this site.

 

[hobson54]

semantics.. neither team made the playoffs but the bills personally knocked us out of the them..

advantage bills..

really, that's how you look at it? that's kind of odd. i look at the better team based on the totality of a 16 game schedule.

what if the jets had lost an earlier game they won but beat the bills, yet still failed to make the playoffs? the playoffs are based on aggregate results of 16 games. a prior loss would have rendered that final game meaningless. but because the schedule worked out the way it did, the 8-8 team is better than the 10-6 team by virtue of a week 17 win?

what if the bills weren't coached by rex ryan - would you still feel the same? would 8 > 10 if someone not named rex coached the bills?

 

[hobson54]

Jetgreen13, you should have known better than to respond to that. The guy takes my post completely out of context and tries to play on it. Lame at best. But that's what happens to posters around here. They get so defensive because their team lost and they'd rather split hairs and argue than face facts.

Personally, myself as a Jets fan, I'd rather face the facts. Knowing them and understanding them is the only way this team gets better. I just hope the CS knows it and doesn't act like the half the posters on this site.

fact - the jets won 10 games
fact - the bills won 8 games

those are the facts.

yet it seems for you, 8 > 10

is this a fact???

 

[SackExchange]

Who gives a sh*t about bragging rights?! That's completely foolish. The Jets beat the Patsies a few weeks ago does that give you "bragging rights" when the Patsies will be playing in the playoffs this weekend?

So I guess in your world, if the Jets have a better record than said team and lost the season series to them then he Jets are still better than them, right? But if it's the Patsies you still have bragging rights the Jets beat them face to face? Sounds like fairy tale land to me.

I don't recall at any point ever saying the Jets have bragging rights over the Patriots.

Show me where I said that. Come on. Man up and show me where I EVER said the Jets had bragging rights over the Patriots.

 

[SackExchange]

well yeah. if one team is 8-8 and the other team is 10-6, and they played largely the same schedule (only 2 games varied), then i think the team with 10 wins was the better team than the team with 8 wins over the course of a 16 week season.

do you think 8 wins is better than 10??? since you previously went on and on about simple math, last i check, 10 > 8. do you disagree?

I agree. If the Jets lose both games to a team but end up with a better record than them, then yes, the Jets are the better team.

 

[SackExchange]

Jetgreen13, you should have known better than to respond to that. The guy takes my post completely out of context and tries to play on it. Lame at best. But that's what happens to posters around here. They get so defensive because their team lost and they'd rather split hairs and argue than face facts.

Personally, myself as a Jets fan, I'd rather face the facts. Knowing them and understanding them is the only way this team gets better. I just hope the CS knows it and doesn't act like the half the posters on this site.

Yet another poster with whom you have an issue.

I thought it was all my fault, and I was the instigator. Yet I see you in pissing matches with a whole slew of posters.

 

[jetgreen13]

really, that's how you look at it? that's kind of odd. i look at the better team based on the totality of a 16 game schedule.

what if the jets had lost an earlier game they won but beat the bills, yet still failed to make the playoffs? the playoffs are based on aggregate results of 16 games. a prior loss would have rendered that final game meaningless. but because the schedule worked out the way it did, the 8-8 team is better than the 10-6 team by virtue of a week 17 win?

what if the bills weren't coached by rex ryan - would you still feel the same? would 8 > 10 if someone not named rex coached the bills?

if ifs & buts were candy & nuts we would all have a merry christmas..

week 17 wasn't a "hypothetical," it was a chance to go to the playoffs on a 6 game winning streak.. didn't happen because we lost to the bills.. again..

& what good are 10 wins if you already know you need 11??

BTW, i've already stated my position on ryan in this thread.. that's not "hypothetical" either..