Rob Ryan to join Buffalo Bills defensive staff

[SackExchange]

Not really sure you have. At least the players don't seem to think so, or Bowles for that matter.


Bowles never shared the belief that the realistic goal should be eight or nine wins. He told The News on the eve of training camp that “8-8 would not be satisfactory for me” because “my job is to go try to win a championship for this team and this city. And that’s what I’m going to do.”

“It’s going to be very hard to not make the playoffs and say it was a success,” quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick told The News.


“It would hurt,” Skrine said of missing the playoffs with a double-digit win season. “That’s a good winning season and a great way to start off the new era, but we want to make it to the playoffs. So I would say we didn’t meet our expectations (if we miss the playoffs).”


“It would be a weird feeling,” safety Calvin Pryor told The News about missing the postseason with 10 or 11 wins. “At the end of the day, if you don’t make the playoffs, you’re missing out on the big goal. We’re here for one goal and one goal only: And that’s to go to the Super Bowl and win.”


“It would be a weird feeling,” safety Calvin Pryor told The News about missing the postseason with 10 or 11 wins. “At the end of the day, if you don’t make the playoffs, you’re missing out on the big goal. We’re here for one goal and one goal only: And that’s to go to the Super Bowl and win.”



“If I’m home on January 4th, in my eyes, it’s just not successful,” Decker said.


But you play the game to get into that postseason and have a chance at a championship. That’s my true measure of success.”




Personally I'm glad the players realize the goal is to make the play offs and not just win 10 games. Give hope for the future

What if they had gone 9-7, snuck into a wild card, and got bounced by a Cinci by two scores first round? Is that really better than 10-6?

 

[jetgreen13]

obviously the goal is to win the super bowl, and to that, you need to make the playoffs.

but do you think the jets/bowles had a bad season?

based on where the team finished last year (4-12), and factoring in the additions/subtractions on personnel in the off-season, and considering what was known of fitz coming into the season, if someone told you prior to week 1 kickoff that the jets would be 10-6 in 2015, would you have considered that a good season?

now ask the same question on the bills/rex, with buffalo coming off a 9-7 record. would you say that the bills had a good season going 8-8, but beating the jets twice, including in the last week of the season to knock the jets out of the playoffs.

hell, me & a few others predicted (here at JFU) 10+ wins with fitzpatrick as the starter..

but everything is relative 54..

for me, 10-6 could no longer be considered a "good season" after they knew good & damn well 11 wins we're needed to make the playoffs.. because like we agree on, the goal is winning the super bowl & a team has to make he playoffs to have a shot..

as far as the bills, 8-8 is mediocre record & like us they missed the playoffs as well..

thing is, we had nothing to do with them not making post season while they had everything to do with us missing them..

 

[SackExchange]

hell, me & a few others predicted (here at JFU) 10+ wins with fitzpatrick as the starter..

but everything is relative 54..

for me, 10-6 could no longer be considered a "good season" after they knew good & damn well 11 wins we're needed to make the playoffs.. because like we agree on, the goal is winning the super bowl & a team has to make he playoffs to have a shot..

as far as the bills, 8-8 is mediocre record & like us they missed the playoffs as well..

thing is, we had nothing to do with them not making post season while they had everything to do with us missing them..

In other words, 31 teams are not going to have a good season.

 

[jetgreen13]

How was 11 wins the goal? Who knew how many wins it would take, or how the tiebreakers would go.

sadly, I think the only one here that didn't know the jets would have made the playoffs at 11-5 is you sack.. if the jets won week 17 they would have qualified for the playoffs.. period..

 

[flgreen]

What if they had gone 9-7, snuck into a wild card, and got bounced by a Cinci by two scores first round? Is that really better than 10-6?

Spinning a bit here no?

 

[SackExchange]

sadly, I think the only one here that didn't know the jets would have made the playoffs at 11-5 is you sack.. if the jets won week 17 they would have qualified for the playoffs.. period..

The Jets would have won if they had gone 11-5. But that's this season. There have been some teams who have not. And there have been others who have gotten in at 9-7, or worse.

I suppose if you keep moving the goalposts and changing your goals, fine.

What if Pittsburgh had lost Week 17? Would the Jets then had a good season, because they would have won the tiebreaker with the Steelers? The Steelers win, so the Jets have a bad season.

 

[SackExchange]

Spinning a bit here no?

I don't think so. It certainly was a realistic possibility.

 

[jetgreen13]

The Jets would have won if they had gone 11-5. But that's this season.

...of course this season!! what in the world could possibly made you think i was talking about anything but this season??

 

[HYATT™]

Excellent HC move.
HYATT™ can see the 2016 Jills' defense nickname in the headlines already.

R2D2 to take on NFL in Star Wars - Part DUH! (Deux)

This hire allows Rex to concentrate on those parts of his HC gig he hasn't excelled at, namely offense.
And, because the twins know each other inside & out, there won't be much conflict on how the defense will operate.
If any of you have ever caught any of the interactions between these two, clowning around, it's a boatload of laughs.
HYATT™, for one, believes it's going to be a very entertaining incestuous bromance.

 

[SackExchange]

...of course this season!! what in the world could possibly made you think i was talking about anything but this season??

Clearly you missed my point. My point was 11-5 would have gotten the Jets in this season. But not every team in NFL history that has gone 11-5 has made the playoffs.

 

[jetgreen13]

Clearly you missed my point. My point was 11-5 would have gotten the Jets in this season. But not every team in NFL history that has gone 11-5 has made the playoffs.

...i'm sorry, (again) wut??

with all due respect sack, no, i didn't miss your point in the slightest.. because it was my point.. absolutely not yours..

 

[SackExchange]

...i'm sorry, (again) wut??

with all due respect sack, no, i didn't miss your point in the slightest.. because it was my point.. absolutely not yours..

You said 11 wins was the goal, because that would have gotten them into the playoffs.

My point is, 11 wins is not a playoff guarantee. But sometimes 9, or even 8, wins gets you into the playoffs.

Was 11 wins the goal at the beginning of the year, or the goal after Week 16?

 

[flgreen]

You said 11 wins was the goal, because that would have gotten them into the playoffs.

My point is, 11 wins is not a playoff guarantee. But sometimes 9, or even 8, wins gets you into the playoffs.

Was 11 wins the goal at the beginning of the year, or the goal after Week 16?

The goal at the beginning of the year was to get to the play offs, no matter what the win numbers required. Then move on to the Super Bowl.

This year it required 11 wins, they had a legitimate shot at it.............and missed.

 

[SackExchange]

The goal at the beginning of the year was to get to the play offs, no matter what the win numbers required. Then move on to the Super Bowl.

This year it required 11 wins, they had a legitimate shot at it.............and missed.

To me, that's a rather fluid goal to define a "good season." There are too many factors outside of the Jets' power that impact that.

What if they were in a weaker division, and got in by winning the division at 8-8? What if it was one of those rare years where 11-5 doesn't get you in?

Let's look back at Week 17. Jets losing to the Bills. If we are saying a good season is determined by making the playoffs, doesn't that mean that the Jets would have had a good season at 10-6 if Cleveland beat the Steelers, but did not have a good season because the Steelers beat the Browns?

 

[Savage69]

Bills were playing off a 9-7 schedule from 2014 we had a 4-12 in 2014 plus it's fair to say we had a vet QB and the Bills had one that was a first time starter..

 

[SackExchange]

Bills were playing off a 9-7 schedule from 2014 we had a 4-12 in 2014 plus it's fair to say we had a vet QB and the Bills had one that was a first time starter..

The schedule issue was discussed in another thread. There aren't really 9-7 or 4-12 schedules. Schedules are set, identical for teams in the same division except for two opponents, determined by the previous year's standing in the division.

 

[flgreen]

To me, that's a rather fluid goal to define a "good season." There are too many factors outside of the Jets' power that impact that.

What if they were in a weaker division, and got in by winning the division at 8-8? What if it was one of those rare years where 11-5 doesn't get you in?

Let's look back at Week 17. Jets losing to the Bills. If we are saying a good season is determined by making the playoffs, doesn't that mean that the Jets would have had a good season at 10-6 if Cleveland beat the Steelers, but did not have a good season because the Steelers beat the Browns?

To you it might be, but to the players and the HC the goal seems to be to get into the play offs, then hopefully win 3-4 games in a row as their situation requires. See post #79. How other teams in your division finish, as long as they don't knock you out of the play offs doesn't matter at all.

Seems pretty uncomplicated to me.

 

[SackExchange]

To you it might be, but to the players and the HC the goal seems to be to get into the play offs, then hopefully win 3-4 games in a row as their situation requires. See post #79. How other teams in your division finish, as long as they don't knock you out of the play offs doesn't matter at all.

Seems pretty uncomplicated to me.

Then the goal is to win 3 or 4 games in the playoffs - in other words, the Super Bowl.

I think the difference here may be semantics. Are we talking about goals, or are we talking about a good season?

Winning that game in February should always be a goal. But is it possible to have a good season without reaching that goal? If not, then 31 teams are not having a good season this year. I guarantee it. If the Panthers lose the SB by a FG, will they not have had a good season?

 

[Savage69]

The schedule issue was discussed in another thread. There aren't really 9-7 or 4-12 schedules. Schedules are set, identical for teams in the same division except for two opponents, determined by the previous year's standing in the division.

And those 2 teams we didn't play and the Bills did was the Chiefs and the Bengals 2 playoffs teams.. Would we have still been 10-6 if we did??

 

[LGM]

I get it now

Every year 31 NFL teams have a "bad season"

That uncomplicates things JB