you trust our oline?
Pick #103 - Bryce Petty - QB - Baylor
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you trust our oline?
I do. Jets brought in some guys I think can help the o-line. I believe our D will keep us in 10-11 games at least. They may even win us about 6-7 realistically. Now can the offense not screw up those 10-11 games and do their part to help us win them is the question? They have the weapons now to do their part but do we have the o-line and QB play? I think so, well hope so. The offense may even need to win us 2-3 but with decent QB play, heavy running of the ball and a o-line to help to decent QB play, I see it.
Actually, the best thing to happen for the Jets is to have all these off-season moves pan out so we're going into the draft without so many holes to fill.
I have no problem packaging multiple picks for a potential franchise QB -- I just can't stomach the thought when it's at the expense of so many other needs . . .
I'd be shocked if we gave up more than 20 points more than 3 times this year. I think our D can be special. The right side of the oline scares me (Catpenter played LG for Seattle). Hopefully chan can keep defenses off balance to slow down the pass rush vs Breno. I think I could get 3 sacks in a game vs Breno if he single blocked me...maybe only 2 after how I ate during the Mayweather fight. But after a good camp, I think 3.
Lol, ok! We'll I hope Breno can hold up better against non-NFL players then he can NFL monster coming at him. I think our o-line will be ok this year. Not the best in the league of course but formidable. Enough for there to be no excuses from the QB as to why he couldn't get the ball to the receiver he was throwing to. Or why the RB didn't hit the whole he was supposed to hit.I'd be shocked if we gave up more than 20 points more than 3 times this year. I think our D can be special. The right side of the oline scares me (Catpenter played LG for Seattle). Hopefully chan can keep defenses off balance to slow down the pass rush vs Breno. I think I could get 3 sacks in a game vs Breno if he single blocked me...maybe only 2 after how I ate during the Mayweather fight. But after a good camp, I think 3.
Yet Neil O'Donnell led the Steelers to an (11-5) season in 1995, and only lost in the Super Bowl to the dynastic DAL team of the early 90s in their final hurrah.
HYATT™ is no O'Donnell apologist, never liked his WAY TOO conservative brand of football - but as with Brad Johnson in Trampa, Trent Dilfer in his later years in BAL, Doug Williams in WAS, Len Dawson in KC, Earl Morrall in Indy, Craig Morton in DAL & DEN, Bob Griese & David Woodley in MIA, Troy Aikman in DAL, Rich Gannon in OAK, & Matt Hasselbeck in SEA - you CAN get to and even win a Super Bowl with a less than dynamic QB taking snaps, if you have the supporting cast surrounding him to hold down the other team's ability to be more dynamic.
Odds are higher you'll end up with the short end of the stick more often than not, but it IS possible.
It's just a whole lot EASIER if your QB is a playmaker like Favre, Elway, Eli, Montana, Young, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Kelly, Stabler, or Bradshaw - and you still have the dynamic surrounding cast too.
Nothing is guaranteed in writing of course, but HYATT™ suspects the Jills fans are happier about losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls with Kelly than Chiefs fans are for having won only 1, way back in 1970, with Len Dawson.
Fitzpatrick CAN be a stable enough QB to get the Jets to the Big Dance, with a lot of help from his team, & HYATT™ doesn't know if you can ask any more of a QB than that.
Ultimately it IS a "team sport", and QBs don't win Lombardis all by themselves.
Never have and never will.
Kreist, that tool in New England is more than proof of that concept - 3 trophies courtesy of a damn KICKER & a fourth courtesy of an undrafted rookie DB, (or a SEA HC who outsmarted himself).
HYATT™;33406 said:
I think so too, but Fitz can't take many shots. IMO, he's no spring chicken.
Fitz is 32 and all his games added up come out to about 6 seasons so I think he has plenty of football left in him.
Not to start a new thread, but do we know now the talent around Fitz stacks up with past seasons/successes?
IOW are we putting him in a better situation than he usually finds himself (I KNOW it's not the worst) or has he already been given the reins of comparable talent and crapped the bed?
IOW are we putting him in a better situation than he usually finds himself (I KNOW it's not the worst) or has he already been given the reins of comparable talent and crapped the bed?
That is correct. You know me very well my friend.:smiley-cool11:
HYATT™;33406 said:
I don't always (mostly NEVER) agree with HYATT, but he is spot on here. We really arent giving this team enough credit fellas. Hell, we're not even giving Mac credit if we say we're going 8-8.
Think about it fellas, it was an absolute miracle we won 4 games last year with NOTHING. No CB's, Depleted WR's, a complete clueless & incompetent QB and the biggest one is that the team was completely undisciplined with Rex.
This year we have without any doubt a top 3 over all defense. A #1 true receiver. A burner that can stretch the field in Devin Smith. Our O-Line has been shored up. Depth at RB who want to make a name for themselves (Hell New England has been doing this for years already). A QB who knows the system in Fitzpatrick.
This team will not go 6,7,8 or 9 wins. IMHO, This is a team with leaders and young players that do not want to go through what happened the past two seasons. This is atleast a 10 win team. The Jets are built to win right now and are also building for the future.
Petty will learn what it is to study his ass off as a professional under true coaches & Leaders around him and will keep him in line until his number is called. He has that innate abilty to lead and it's bred in him. He will sit and wait his turn, until then this franchise under Maccagnan and Todd Bowles will make sure there is a winning environment that Petty will get used playing in.
Agree and from what TB has stated everyone will be under the microscope to perform and know the dam assignments.... so I am hoping our false start machine at RG is sitting and playing backup this year.
Indeed, sir.
CMON be realistic...ANY QB drafted guys would have been making a case for them..whether it be Mannion, Carlson, Bennet, Hundley..etc.....
I don't think anyone on this board thinks deep down that Petty is the answer..we all hope someone is...and who knows..but he has just as good shot as Geno at this point....
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Just last season some were making the case for Boyd...it was bye bye Simms..many had that guy competing for the staring job..why not because Geno sucks....when I see team actually develop these lower round QB's and those guys start for a season and maybe have some success then I'll get excited. The league is full of former 3rd and 4th and lower round QB from recent draft still sitting the bench...while teams with QB issues outbid each other for the services of Fitz, and McCown, and the Chad Henne's of the league.
If Petty is given the time to develop,he will be our guy. Hopefully he will show the naysayers in the preseason with a few flashes. Now that we have depth at reciever and running back, the 2nd and 3rd string offense might look good against scrubs. Then we will have the media calling for Petty to start!
Im sorry, but any of the other guys dont have the potential Bryce brings IMHO. I'am being very realistic with Petty. I'am not saying he's the sure fire answer, but he has every intangible of being something very promising.
Only time will tell my friend.
I hope any of our Qbs get to a great level....Im just saying..he is a crapshoot like all the other guys....if he was that a great shot at it..he would have been taken much earlier by someone..and I know QBs drafted late become stars..but still odds are against this guy..he could be a david klingler....a system guy more than MAriota