#6 pick in 2015 - Jets select Leonard Williams DT USC
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A few things that are obvious to me:
1) Everyone including myself was thinking this DL could be some form of the old sack exchange? With Sheldon now on the shelf for what looks like at least a half season, there's no such thing. Just like the old sack exchange, this sack exchange (if you can call it that) will not play together for very long.
2) The Jets NEED Williams to step up and become a great player. Sheldon is not going to last in NY. The Jets still need a formidable DL. Losing Sheldon and not having a suitable replacement would see this DL suddenly become a pushover.
However, if Williams becomes a truly great player (and I think he will), the Jets DL will be fine.
It's amazing how quickly things can change. Originally, we were talking about this DL with visions of euphoria. Now that Sheldon's trouble has come to light, those great thoughts have been reduced to cautious optimism.
1) Everyone including myself was thinking this DL could be some form of the old sack exchange? With Sheldon now on the shelf for what looks like at least a half season, there's no such thing. Just like the old sack exchange, this sack exchange (if you can call it that) will not play together for very long.
2) The Jets NEED Williams to step up and become a great player. Sheldon is not going to last in NY. The Jets still need a formidable DL. Losing Sheldon and not having a suitable replacement would see this DL suddenly become a pushover.
However, if Williams becomes a truly great player (and I think he will), the Jets DL will be fine.
It's amazing how quickly things can change. Originally, we were talking about this DL with visions of euphoria. Now that Sheldon's trouble has come to light, those great thoughts have been reduced to cautious optimism.
I don't see things so black and white. This line is very good even without Richardson. Wilkerson, Harrison, Williams (reports from camp nothing but positive so far), and a bunch of solid depth guys behind them like Douzable, TJ Barnes, and Vickerson. I'm not downplaying Richardson's worth, but the defensive line has enough depth and talent to absorb his loss for half the season. Maybe even entirely.
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You're drinking too much Kool Aid. Positive camp feedback about Williams means nothing. How many times did we get fed the same positive information about Kendrick Ellis? How many times did we see Ellis blow up OL's during preseason games? Then he was a virtual no show during the regular season.
The only way you can ultimately tell with Williams is when you see it on the field. All that stuff you're talking about? That's fluff and nonsense, especially when we're merely 4 practices into TC and one was played without pads.
We also need to hope to get a pass rush from Williams. Because without him stepping up, the Jets pass rush is rather ordinary. We have a lot of guys that are stout at the point of attack. They will stand their ground and tackle the runner when he comes in their direction. However, besides Wilkerson, they do not get a pass rush. They are not suited to rush the QB.
Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson were always the pass rush generating personnel on our DL. We have lost Sheldon for at least 8 games I figure, and that knocks that number down to ONE pass rusher that just suffered a hamstring injury.
They would always be pretty good against the run, but they wouldn't be a DL that completely controlled the LOS. Losing Sheldon and not having a replacement for him gives us a good run stopping defense but a DL that will allow the QB to stand back in the pocket for a long time and eventually pick the Jets apart through the air. Having a good pass rush gives us the ability to much better control the LOS and ultimately control the game.
The only way you can ultimately tell with Williams is when you see it on the field. All that stuff you're talking about? That's fluff and nonsense, especially when we're merely 4 practices into TC and one was played without pads.
We also need to hope to get a pass rush from Williams. Because without him stepping up, the Jets pass rush is rather ordinary. We have a lot of guys that are stout at the point of attack. They will stand their ground and tackle the runner when he comes in their direction. However, besides Wilkerson, they do not get a pass rush. They are not suited to rush the QB.
Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson were always the pass rush generating personnel on our DL. We have lost Sheldon for at least 8 games I figure, and that knocks that number down to ONE pass rusher that just suffered a hamstring injury.
They would always be pretty good against the run, but they wouldn't be a DL that completely controlled the LOS. Losing Sheldon and not having a replacement for him gives us a good run stopping defense but a DL that will allow the QB to stand back in the pocket for a long time and eventually pick the Jets apart through the air. Having a good pass rush gives us the ability to much better control the LOS and ultimately control the game.
If you read Cromartie's comments yesterday, you can't go by the past to determine our pass rush. Cro pointed out that Ryan had his defensive lineman 2 gap and basically hold the POA. Bowles, has them in a one gap scheme with the idea to attack the qb. Not all 3-4 defenses are played the same. Rex liked to get sacks from blitzing 5'8 cb's like Drew Coleman. have his olb's cover downfield. different scheme....different philosophy.
Exactly how I feel. From a strength to...hopefully Williams is great, because now I just hope the dine holds up.
Jets first team offense today ran 4 straight times on the goaline...and walked in for tds each time and the dine couldn't do anything about it till the starters came out.
I agree that it went from a strength to we need Williams to be really good...and I think he will be too.
Agreed
All eyes and hope from last night I am seeing this morning, at least on the board, if around the great growth on display by Petty.
Well, another guy who put on a show, and really changed the momentum of the game, was this guy. He definitely put on a show last night and displayed why Ronnie Lott was so high on him before the draft.
Not many players on the Jets right now I'd be excited to buy a jersey for...but this is a name to watch and an easy to kid to root for. Hopefully he keeps his nose clean, continues to improve technique (something Mangold pointed out), and continues to shine. He's looking like something special.
Well, another guy who put on a show, and really changed the momentum of the game, was this guy. He definitely put on a show last night and displayed why Ronnie Lott was so high on him before the draft.
Not many players on the Jets right now I'd be excited to buy a jersey for...but this is a name to watch and an easy to kid to root for. Hopefully he keeps his nose clean, continues to improve technique (something Mangold pointed out), and continues to shine. He's looking like something special.
Leonard Williams is wrecking QBs and giving the Jets real hope
Todd Bowles, the rookie head coach of the Jets, has revealed himself to be unflappable. No matter what happens — and unfathomable turmoil and adversity already have happened under his watch — he acts like he has been there before. Even though he hasn’t been there before.
Bowles is being tested in a way no other Jets rookie head coach has been tested, and that’s saying plenty. It’s as if Rex Ryan is sticking pins in a green-and-white voodoo doll. Bowles must think this is the El Niño of Murphy’s Laws. The good news is he appears tough enough to weather the inevitable Jets storms.
He will need help, of course, and the first hint of that help arrived Friday night.
The best news to come out of Jets 30, Falcons 22 was a barreling hurricane wearing No. 62, first-round draft choice Leonard Williams, a.k.a. Big Cat Williams.
Williams sacked T.J. Yates for a safety and shared a sack of Sean Renfree soon after with Jason Babin. His teammates fed off his hair-raising energy and enthusiasm and joy. On the sidelines, the CBS cameras zeroed in on a 21-year-old kid smiling from here to USC.
“It felt great, finally hitting the quarterback,” Williams said.
Who cares that it was an unimpeded sack?
Williams provided real evidence that Bowles and Gang Green will have a fighting chance to withstand however many games they will be without the services of Sheldon Richardson.
“He has that Richard Seymour prototype-body,” Willie Colon said. “He’s long, he’s athletic, he moves really well in the trenches. He doesn’t even know how good he can be. He’s just playing football. So when he really gets his burns, he’s gonna be scary.”
This is no small development for a defense that will have to carry Ryan Fitzpatrick and company and win games 17-14, or 20-17, on days when the quarterback is able to manage the game without calamity.
Fitzpatrick, operating as Captain Checkdown, was mistake-free Friday. He connected four times with Brandon Marshall and eventually engineered a touchdown drive against the Falcons reserves.
He was lucky he didn’t have to play against Leonard Williams.
Williams played fast, maybe not as fast as Richardson behind the wheel, but fast enough in Beast Mode to terrorize anyone running or passing the football.
“He’s starting to play with his hands a lot more,” Richardson said. “There’s a big difference from this week to last week, and the sky’s the limit for him.”
“I come off the line and use my face mask a lot,” Williams said. “They tell me all the time I got long arms and stuff like that, so just come off the lines and from the ground up just use my arms,” Williams said.
Bowles thought Williams’ sack lit a fire under the defense. The penalty-ravaged Jets trailed 14-0 at the time.
“Even some of the players and coaches came up to me and mentioned it as well, and they were saying like, ‘Thanks for the fire,’ and stuff like that,” Williams said.
When Bowles’ calendar first turned to July, Richardson was a Pro Bowl defensive end, IK Enemkpali was an obscure second-year reserve linebacker and Geno Smith was the starting quarterback. And Muhammad Wilkerson didn’t have a new contract or a tweaked hamstring.
“In college I kind of got away with just being bigger than people, like faster than people,” Williams said, “but now everyone’s big and fast and strong and so you really got to play with technique.”
It was almost as if UCLA were on the other side.
Todd Bowles, the rookie head coach of the Jets, has revealed himself to be unflappable. No matter what happens — and unfathomable turmoil and adversity already have happened under his watch — he acts like he has been there before. Even though he hasn’t been there before.
Bowles is being tested in a way no other Jets rookie head coach has been tested, and that’s saying plenty. It’s as if Rex Ryan is sticking pins in a green-and-white voodoo doll. Bowles must think this is the El Niño of Murphy’s Laws. The good news is he appears tough enough to weather the inevitable Jets storms.
He will need help, of course, and the first hint of that help arrived Friday night.
The best news to come out of Jets 30, Falcons 22 was a barreling hurricane wearing No. 62, first-round draft choice Leonard Williams, a.k.a. Big Cat Williams.
Williams sacked T.J. Yates for a safety and shared a sack of Sean Renfree soon after with Jason Babin. His teammates fed off his hair-raising energy and enthusiasm and joy. On the sidelines, the CBS cameras zeroed in on a 21-year-old kid smiling from here to USC.
“It felt great, finally hitting the quarterback,” Williams said.
Who cares that it was an unimpeded sack?
Williams provided real evidence that Bowles and Gang Green will have a fighting chance to withstand however many games they will be without the services of Sheldon Richardson.
“He has that Richard Seymour prototype-body,” Willie Colon said. “He’s long, he’s athletic, he moves really well in the trenches. He doesn’t even know how good he can be. He’s just playing football. So when he really gets his burns, he’s gonna be scary.”
This is no small development for a defense that will have to carry Ryan Fitzpatrick and company and win games 17-14, or 20-17, on days when the quarterback is able to manage the game without calamity.
Fitzpatrick, operating as Captain Checkdown, was mistake-free Friday. He connected four times with Brandon Marshall and eventually engineered a touchdown drive against the Falcons reserves.
He was lucky he didn’t have to play against Leonard Williams.
Williams played fast, maybe not as fast as Richardson behind the wheel, but fast enough in Beast Mode to terrorize anyone running or passing the football.
“He’s starting to play with his hands a lot more,” Richardson said. “There’s a big difference from this week to last week, and the sky’s the limit for him.”
“I come off the line and use my face mask a lot,” Williams said. “They tell me all the time I got long arms and stuff like that, so just come off the lines and from the ground up just use my arms,” Williams said.
Bowles thought Williams’ sack lit a fire under the defense. The penalty-ravaged Jets trailed 14-0 at the time.
“Even some of the players and coaches came up to me and mentioned it as well, and they were saying like, ‘Thanks for the fire,’ and stuff like that,” Williams said.
When Bowles’ calendar first turned to July, Richardson was a Pro Bowl defensive end, IK Enemkpali was an obscure second-year reserve linebacker and Geno Smith was the starting quarterback. And Muhammad Wilkerson didn’t have a new contract or a tweaked hamstring.
“In college I kind of got away with just being bigger than people, like faster than people,” Williams said, “but now everyone’s big and fast and strong and so you really got to play with technique.”
It was almost as if UCLA were on the other side.
Complete L.W highlights from last night. Dude will be dominant in this league:
http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/v...ghlights/ae328b6d-182c-4451-aeb5-7b6469e7f8b9
http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/v...ghlights/ae328b6d-182c-4451-aeb5-7b6469e7f8b9
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BIG CAT
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BIG CAT
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We need a lion icon, with the big maneNot enough hair
I like that first one, 51
Oh yeah, way too big to use as an icon lol
He was a beast yesterday, WOW! Richardson may very well be in the trading block next year. I'm assuming they want him to play whatever he can to build his trade value back up. Wilkerson is looking good to get paid now with us biw with Richardson screwing up so much.
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Great pic. he looks like a lion there. Going to go look for some lion pics to match that. Wish I could photo shop. That picture is perfect for it