He played well his last 4 games of rookie season, but wasn't very good last season when he was the guy. Then he got hurt.
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He played well his last 4 games of rookie season, but wasn't very good last season when he was the guy. Then he got hurt.
You mean when Rex rushed him back from injury where he immediately...got injured...he was never 100 percent last year, imo.
based on the below trade value chart, the difference between the #6 and #2 pick is 1000, which is equal to the 16th overall pick. i highly doubt milliner coming off a blown achillies and with basically 4 good games in 2 years is valued that highly
http://www.ourlads.com/nfldraftvalue/
Still not sure it matters. I'm not sold on his ability in the NFL yet. I'm hoping he turns it around and comes back healthy because it helps the Jets.
I wouldn't say that, FLG, because he's only 23, thats still a puppy, some seniors are just coming into the league at his age, and he has a terrific blend of size and speed at the Corner position. There are good reasons why he was a TOP 10 Pick. I never loved him and didn't want the Jets to draft him, but by no means was he a reach at #9 because he had the Alabama pedigree, well coached by Saban, and he had all of the physical attributes you look for in a #1 Corner.
To simply move down four spots and still have their pick of the edge rushing litter at a much cheaper price than taking him at 2, by far Tennessee's biggest need, and maybe get lucky with Milliner if he can stay healthy, its a trade I would make if I was in their shoes, and I'm not even a big Milliner guy.
if the jets hadn't signed Revis, would you have traded down from 6 to 12 with Cleveland for Justin Gilbert? how about Gilbert coming off a blown achillies? because that's effectively what you are saying Tenn should do.
on edit - that's not even a great comparison since the difference between 2 and 6 is 1000 points, whereas the difference betwen 6 and 12 is 400 points
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It doesn't matter if he is Revis. He is off an Achilles. Not saying it will happen, but he may never play another game again. An Achilles is a devastating injury for a CB. Couple that with the fact that this is his 4th surgery. No one is going to make any kind of trade for him.
On the other hand he may recover and be fine in 2016, but you would have to be crazy to trade for him, let alone use him as the center piece in a big trade up
Its not the same, hobson, it would only be the same if we were targeting, oh say, Mariota as our #1 target, and we knew he would be there for us at 12 so we didn't have to take him at 6, in fact we would save millions of dollars by trading down to 12 and taking him there instead, in the meantime we also need a starting Corner too, in which case I would take Milliner or Gilbert to move down and still get MY GUY (Mariota) anyway, at a much cheaper rate.
Thats what this trade would be for Tennessee, because edge rusher is BY FAR their biggest need, a Dick LeBeau defense is effectively neutered without a blue-chip edge rusher and they don't have anything that even resembles an elite edge rusher, so that has to be their top priority and they would have their pick of the litter at 6 the same as they would at 2, only they save millions in the process. They could get Milliner and whichever edge rusher they prefer at 6, BOTH, for basically the same money they would pay for just the edge rusher at #2 .
You might be right about that, FLG, I might be underestimating the effect an achilles injury and his injury history overall has on his value. I'll grant you that, but I would still TRY to pick Tennessee's pocket.
you make a good argument. now go talk the Tenn GM into making the deal... :smiley-cool11:
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You might be right about that, FLG, I might be underestimating the effect an achilles injury and his injury history overall has on his value. I'll grant you that, but I would still TRY to pick Tennessee's pocket.
I understand what you are trying to do Ham. Just pretty sure Milliner isn't going to do the trick.
If you really wanted to drive the fan base crazy with a draft trade, try this. First you would have to be 100% sold that Mariota is your Franchise QB . Most of the drafts have mocked Williams at #2 . Offer either Wilkerson, or Richardson (Who are proven DL) straight up for #2 . You still get to keep your 6.
Sounds like a Chip Kelly move. LOL. Boy would all the message boards explode
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matthews, if he can stay healthy (and huge IF) is a nice fit for that offense.
it really is amazing how "little" RBs go for these days
Thats what I'm saying, you gotta know how to sell ice to an eskimo and make it sound like an electric heater.
Read Trump's book, the art of the deal ... you always OVER VALUE your assets.
If you are selling a Hyundai, sell it like you are selling a Rolls Royce, with conviction.
Give me five minutes with the Titans GM and I'll have him thinking Dee Milliner is Mel Blount. LOL
Thats what I'm saying, you gotta know how to sell ice to an eskimo and make it sound like an electric heater.
Read Trump's book, the art of the deal ... you always OVER VALUE your assets.
If you are selling a Hyundai, sell it like you are selling a Rolls Royce, with conviction.
Give me five minutes with the Titans GM and I'll have him thinking Dee Milliner is Mel Blount. LOL
with his blown achillies and laundry list of injuries, he may more closely resemble mel brooks... :football-injury-smi
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