Vice grip hands like Cotchery used to have.
Vice grip hands like Cotchery used to have.
Finally found my way to this board. I get concerned about guys that blow it up at the combine who had one productive year in college. I am not saying White isn't going to be a good player, but he really only had one good season. He obviously has game-breaking speed. Cooper is a better prospect in my opinion because he looks pro ready. I think Beckham Jr. was a better prospect then both of these guys. He was my choice last year if he was there. Parker looks talented but not a game-breaker.
I think the Jets have a lot of options at 6. If Mariota is there, and they decide not to draft him, that would be a surprise. They could move back, but they would need to get a great deal to do it. They could draft him with the idea of trading him during the draft too, that's a possibility. Next year's QB class is much deeper than this year's class, so the Jets might be willing to wait. But, they need to build out the rest of the roster so that a new QB can step in and not have to be Aaron Rodgers on day 1.
The best players in this draft that I have seen thus far on offense are: Winston, Mariota, Cooper, Melvin Gordon - then White and Parker. Defense is stacked - Waynes, Williams, all the OLBs all look talented, though Gregory looks too lean to me, he needs to bulk up. I can't see the Jets spending a top pick on a OL or D-lineman in this draft unless they move back. They won't draft another safety. My favorite player is Gordon. I think he has a chance to be a great RB in the league. But he doesn't have value anywhere near the 6th spot. If the Jets went back, I could see them drafting him.
I think the Jets have a lot of options at 6. If Mariota is there, and they decide not to draft him, that would be a surprise. They could move back, but they would need to get a great deal to do it. They could draft him with the idea of trading him during the draft too, that's a possibility. Next year's QB class is much deeper than this year's class, so the Jets might be willing to wait. But, they need to build out the rest of the roster so that a new QB can step in and not have to be Aaron Rodgers on day 1.
The best players in this draft that I have seen thus far on offense are: Winston, Mariota, Cooper, Melvin Gordon - then White and Parker. Defense is stacked - Waynes, Williams, all the OLBs all look talented, though Gregory looks too lean to me, he needs to bulk up. I can't see the Jets spending a top pick on a OL or D-lineman in this draft unless they move back. They won't draft another safety. My favorite player is Gordon. I think he has a chance to be a great RB in the league. But he doesn't have value anywhere near the 6th spot. If the Jets went back, I could see them drafting him.
great to see you finally make it over here.
looks like we should have plenty of good options with our pick. that's all we can really ask for at this point.
Ok so he was 3 mili seconds (if thats the correct way to say it) behind Cooper. Doesn't matter really does it? Point being is Cooper, White and Parker are all beast WRs and deserving of their top three claims and top ten draft picks. Would Cooper or White work better for us, probably so but I would have no issue with the Jets drafting Parker at #6 if Cooper and White are gonehttp://nyjetsfanatics.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=6. Beckham is the wild-card that I wouldn't agree with drafting at #6 because of all his issues off the field. Now Beckham may turn out to be the best of all of them in the long run (Randy Moss type talent I'm told) but he is a head case like Moss and not worth the risk at #6 . Late first at best but more like a second rounder to me. This Perriman kid I have no clue of so he can be another option but not at #6 .
Some Combine notes from Brian Costello of the NY Post.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/24/the-cornerback-dilemma-facing-new-jets-regime/
I like Jalen Collins and wouldn't mind him in round two.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/24/the-cornerback-dilemma-facing-new-jets-regime/
I like Jalen Collins and wouldn't mind him in round two.
There are a couple of other CBs who might be available in 2nd round including Kevin Johnson and Damien Rollins.
Daniel Jeremiah had Byron Jones in his top 50 overall(#50) prior to the Combine, and after his performance, he may find his way into round one. I've been reading that Tony Pauline is high on him as well. For the Jets, any cb should be on our radar.
Jake Steinberg @Steiny31 · Feb 21#Jets met with Alabama SS Landon Collins and Washington OLB Shaq Thompson.
Welcome. Glad you had the time to check this place out. Great first post, I look forward to reading more from you. :smiley-cool11:
Post combine mock draft by Daniel Jeremiah.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/230601
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/230601
#Jets met with Alabama SS Landon Collins and Washington OLB Shaq Thompson.
2 studs right there, maybe not options at #6 , but in a trade down scenario
Interesting they have Todd Gurley all the way up to #17 , and had this to say in the caption. "Gurley could end up being the best player in this entire draft class."
I've been telling people how special this kid is if healthy. He will continue to rise as teams go back and look at him on tape. Best back since AP, in my opinion.
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 4h4 hours agoSince 2012, 12 teams have taken 1st round WR. 9 haven't made playoffs since. Only 3: CAR (Benjamin), SF (Jenkins), ARZ (Floyd) #NFLDraft
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 4h4 hours agoAnd out of those three, Jenkins never played in SF, CAR made the playoffs at 7 wins and it took ARZ until Floyd's third year to make it
Good read on Combine "tweeners" including Shaq Thompson.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/25/2015-nfl-draft-shaq-thompson-versatility
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/25/2015-nfl-draft-shaq-thompson-versatility
Interesting stat on the WR's. I think that's why you take the QB if you need one. They are just so much more valuable. With that said, if both QB's are gone and White or Cooper are sitting there, they may be the best value at that point.
I think Cooper is a top line #1 from the jump in the NFL. He's savvy and knows how to play the game.
If Mariota and Cooper are sitting there at 6? Mariota
Mariota vs Beasley (who I think is the best OLB in the draft)? Mariota
Mariota is gone and it's Cooper vs Beasley? I take Cooper by a hair but I would be happy with either.
I think Cooper is a top line #1 from the jump in the NFL. He's savvy and knows how to play the game.
If Mariota and Cooper are sitting there at 6? Mariota
Mariota vs Beasley (who I think is the best OLB in the draft)? Mariota
Mariota is gone and it's Cooper vs Beasley? I take Cooper by a hair but I would be happy with either.
one thing to keep in mind is that most top "pass rushers" coming out of college are guys best suited to be 4-3 DEs (or 3-4 DEs). the jets are looking for a rush OLB, which in most cases means transitioning someone who played DE in college to a 3-4 OLB in the pros. obviously this has worked for many, but it is a concern when you just say "take the pass rusher"
I agree but we have neglected the offense so badly in recent years in the draft. We are a rare exception to this rule.
Well, that's no different than deciding if Mariota could fit in our offense. People say "just keep drafting a QB until you hit on one", but it's pointless to draft one you don't think will fit your scheme/philosophy. Likewise, I'm not saying draft a pass rusher by taking a name out of a hat, but seeing as we haven't had one since J Abraham, I think it's safe to say we've undervalued the position.
All things being equal, I still take the elite pass rusher over the elite WR every day of the week.
But haven't we neglected the pass rush as well? As much as Stephen Hill flopped, he was an All-Star compared to Gholston.
If you go into a draft with a shot at Dez Bryant or Demarcus Ware, I'm all in with the latter.
(Although, truth be told I'd take the dominant OL over the WR also, so I guess I just have a bias against the position . . .)