Peyton Manning is busted (HGH)

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Its too bad they didn't bust Tom Brady, because he SURE AS HELL is on PED's too, there's NO WAY he is naturally still playing at this MVP level at 38. The article does say other famous athletes were named too, hopefully he was one of them, but I'm not optimistic, he's a better cheater than Peyton, he learned from the best (Belichick).
 

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I don't think that report has anything that will stick . That family has a impeccable reputation and its will take some hard evidence for people to take this seriously . Just my take


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I don't want to convict the guy without all the facts, but if its true that HGH was being sent directly to his house under his wife's name, you almost have to be in denial to give him a pass.

People might accept that the HGH was really for his wife, because the fans and media like him and the NFL has a vested interest in protecting his image, but if this report came out about someone they don't like, like Arod or Barry Bonds, there's no way in hell they are getting the benefit of the doubt, not even BEFORE they were officially discovered to have cheated. So in some ways I agree with Bronx, it all depends on who you are. Big Papi for example was directly connected to the MLB report that leaked, his name was on that list too, but you would hardly know it because the media and fans like him, and in Boston he's a beloved icon, and players around the league like and admire him too. So yeah, sometimes it does come down to a popularity contest, and if that be the case here, then Peyton's excuses will be accepted and he'll be given the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Its too bad they didn't bust Tom Brady, because he SURE AS HELL is on PED's too, there's NO WAY he is naturally still playing at this MVP level at 38. The article does say other famous athletes were named too, hopefully he was one of them, but I'm not optimistic, he's a better cheater than Peyton, he learned from the best (Belichick).

Who comes back from a catastrophic knee injury the way Brady did, without any negative repercussions from it? Since the day he came back, it has been a non-issue.

Knee injuries don't really work that way.
 

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I don't think that report has anything that will stick . That family has a impeccable reputation and its will take some hard evidence for people to take this seriously . Just my take


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I'm not accepting this as factual yet, either. I need a lot more than this particular source.
 

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Who comes back from a catastrophic knee injury the way Brady did, without any negative repercussions from it? Since the day he came back, it has been a non-issue.

Knee injuries don't really work that way.
Yep, but just use common sense, in MLB we had 38 year olds looking like 28 year olds during the PED's era, 38 year olds were hitting 40 HR's, it was unlike anything in baseball history to that point, AND NO, it was NOT attributed to better conditioning and eating habits, thats a crock and it was exposed as a crock the moment MLB was forced to crackdown on PED's, NOW, 38 years olds look 38 again, which is to say, they are retired or very close to retirement, just like it was for the whole history of baseball prior to the PED's era, not counting the occasional aberration.

Now consider that football is a collision sport which is FAR more demanding on the human body. Then look at all of the great QB's from the past, how many of them were still playing at an MVP level at 38? Heck, how many were still playing at all at 38? There is no doubt in my mind, none whatsoever, that Tom Brady is a product of PED's.
 

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I'm not accepting this as factual yet, either. I need a lot more than this particular source.
I could be wrong, but I heard Peyton admitted HGH was delivered to his house, but he's insisting it was for his wife.

If thats his argument it comes down to whether or not you believe him. There's no smoking gun, no video of him taking PED's, it just comes down to what you are willing to believe. ME, I don't believe for one second that his wife was on HGH, I'm not buying it, if that delivery really happened, I wholeheartedly believe it was Peyton's, but someone else might believe otherwise.
 

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Did Peyton's wife order the Human Growth Hormone because she thought he needs it?
I could see why he's embarrassed by the story.

Anyhow, the person interviewed says it was all a scam. According to a new ESPN story, he says he told the reporter from Al Jazeera the story just to see how far they would run with it. He wasn't in the state at the time nor did he ever work for the institution mentioned in the story.

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I could be wrong, but I heard Peyton admitted HGH was delivered to his house, but he's insisting it was for his wife.

If thats his argument it comes down to whether or not you believe him. There's no smoking gun, no video of him taking PED's, it just comes down to what you are willing to believe. ME, I don't believe for one second that his wife was on HGH, I'm not buying it, if that delivery really happened, I wholeheartedly believe it was Peyton's, but someone else might believe otherwise.

Well, it might be a moot point in the end. The "source" from Al Jazeera is now recanting. "I've never seen the Mannings. Ever."

This is beginning to smell like garbage to me.
 

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I could be wrong, but I heard Peyton admitted HGH was delivered to his house, but he's insisting it was for his wife.

If thats his argument it comes down to whether or not you believe him. There's no smoking gun, no video of him taking PED's, it just comes down to what you are willing to believe. ME, I don't believe for one second that his wife was on HGH, I'm not buying it, if that delivery really happened, I wholeheartedly believe it was Peyton's, but someone else might believe otherwise.


is your source the same as the now refuted (recanted) source that al jazeera ran with? this seems like a hoax of a story. and i say this as someone who always had a dislike of peyton manning (since he basically passed on the chance to go to the jets and went back for his senior year).

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ks-peyton-manning-other-pro-athletes-use-peds
 

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Who comes back from a catastrophic knee injury the way Brady did, without any negative repercussions from it? Since the day he came back, it has been a non-issue.

Knee injuries don't really work that way.


actually, many players come back from ACL injuries and go on to have long, productive careers
 

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is your source the same as the now refuted (recanted) source that al jazeera ran with? this seems like a hoax of a story. and i say this as someone who always had a dislike of peyton manning (since he basically passed on the chance to go to the jets and went back for his senior year).

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ks-peyton-manning-other-pro-athletes-use-peds
Thats fine, but don't blame me, I'm just going by what was reported and forming my opinions off that, I'm not responsible if the reports turnout to be false, and of course that changes my opinion (about Peyton, not Brady).
 

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Thats fine, but don't blame me, I'm just going by what was reported and forming my opinions off that, I'm not responsible if the reports turnout to be false, and of course that changes my opinion (about Peyton, not Brady).


no, you said you heard peyton admitted HGH was delivered to his house, but for his wife. this wasn't even in the initial story you posted. so i ask where did you "hear" this?

as to brady, it seems you are ready to convict based on zero evidence. last time you started with this argument, you went off baseless accusations which seem more based on hatred (jealousy?) than anything else. you talked about how he was a backup in college, which is completely untrue.

i can understand holding spygate and deflategate, etc.., against his accomplishments. but now it seems you are just seeking for reasons to indict him, and here you are using an al jazeera story that seems completely bunk and was directed to peyton manning, and using it to justify your baseless accusations against brady.

no wonder jets fans get such a bad rap...
 

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no, you said you heard peyton admitted HGH was delivered to his house, but for his wife. this wasn't even in the initial story you posted. so i ask where did you "hear" this?
It was reported, I didn't pull it out of my ass.

I heard it on the NFL Network late last night, Amber Theoharis.

As for Brady, I don't believe he is still playing at an MVP level at 38 without "help", and you're right, I never believed it and I've explained why, thats why this has no baring on my opinion of Brady.

Go look at the list of HOF QB's, its on the HOF website, then come back and tell me how many of them were still playing at an MVP level at 38, or even still playing at all?
 
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