So one team every season has a good year.
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So one team every season has a good year.
Honestly? Yes. Players say that losing the Superbowl is worse then not getting there at all.
I'm competitive. If I lose I would rather not have played
Rob is working under his brother, because if he was on top, Rex couldn't throw his headset.
America wants to know; how will Two-Wide defend those 3-Wides?
Will Rex make Rob do lap?
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America wants to know; how will Two-Wide defend those 3-Wides?
Will Rex make Rob do lap?
Rob: The Meatier Meathead.
Rob Ryan: Meatier Man
"You've got a weiner in town"
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Look at it generically. If you were a football team and someone asked you before the season , what would make your season a success, wouldn't you answer "winning the Superbowl"?
There is 1 other thing that makes a football season a success for me. When the cheatriots don't win the Superbowl!
There is 1 other thing that makes a football season a success for me. When the cheatriots don't win the Superbowl!
So the Jets make big strides this year, but it would have been better if they had not played at all. Win it all, or don't bother.
Look at it generically. If you were a football team and someone asked you before the season , what would make your season a success, wouldn't you answer "winning the Superbowl"?
There is 1 other thing that makes a football season a success for me. When the cheatriots don't win the Superbowl!
So unless you were around for Super Bowl III, you have never been happy with the Jets?
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So where is this "rock solid" win loss line that defines it as good season for you? Is it 6-10?. After all after spending $50,000,000 in the off season they did have a significant increase over last season's record.
Is it 8-8? Hell, they didn't have a losing season.
Is it 9-7? they had a winning season.
Or is it 10-6, well because that's what they did this year, and you want to call it a good season and feel good
All seems very arbitrary to me.
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I was 3 when they were in the superbowl. If you go read my post in the same old Jets thread, I go through the history of the Jets by decade showing that until Rex went twice, each decade since the superbowl we have gone to the AFC championship game once. That's our highlight real.
Honestly, when I was a kid I always had faith we would go to a superbowl some day. After so many years of sadness and heartbrake with this team, I really tend to believe that we will not win a superbowl in my lifetime. There have been enjoyable games. I was excited as hell when Parcells came here. That was the only time I really expected that we would win the superbowl. The year after the Denver loss when Vinny went down. I really believed that was going to be our year.
look, for the last 15 years or however long belichick has been cheating, we enter every season knowing we are not going to win the division and that those cheaters are most likely going to the superbowl. without brady they were 11-5. That's there worst record in 15 years. That has made my life miserable, especially living in Ct. where the more the cheaters win the bigger the band wagon grows for them. When I was young there were no cheater fans in my area. Know everyone here is. You can't where a Jet shirt without someone saying something. Combine the cheaters winning with the Jets not winning and I barely like football anymore.
so to answer your question. not really. the Denver loss year I was heartbroken but had hope for superbowl the next season and look what happened, the cheaters took Vinny out for the season then next year Hess died and that was the beginning of the cheaters reign of evil. I can't remember any other time where we went into the off season and I thought we were going to the superbowl the next year.
so I'm a pessimist, really, because of this team. I have had nothing but heartache with them for 40 plus years and yes I'm still around. The last few years I have tried to take a step away here and there so as not to get so pissed off at them all the time. For most of my 40 plus years I never missed a single play
I take offense when guys get mad at the pessimistic fans because we have been here as long as anybody and rooting as hard as anybody and there have been way more reasons to be pessimistic then to be optimistic. I applaud anyone who can be optimistic after all the years of sadness though.
They spent over 100 mil and had the easiest schedule we'll ever see. They darn well better make great strides but if the strides don't continue then what good is it. I'm not saying win it all or don't bother because you have to be trying to win it all. I hope no team goes into a season saying that if they make the playoffs the season will be a success. They should all have the superbowl as their goal. Plenty of teams have won the superbowl who were never expected to.
Do you think any of those Jet players left Buffalo happy with the season? Or were they distraught over missing the playoffs when they were so close?
It is arbitrary.
The problem I have is that a significant portion of Jets fans tend to be crybabies. I love the team, but not so much portions of the fan base.
If they surprise everyone and make the playoffs, but lose first round, SOJF cry that they always disappoint in the playoffs. If they win a game or two but lose in the conference title game (Rex's first two years), SOJF cry that they never make the big game. If they win the AFC title and lose the Super Bowl, SOJF cry that nothing matters but winning it all, and all they are is first losers who hurt their draft status.
Playoffs aren't a barometer, because Jets fans would simply move the goalposts and increase their expectations. Nothing short of winning the SB would make for a "good" Jets season, as this thread demonstrates.
Again with the schedule. The other AFC East teams had a nearly identical one.
In answer to your question, I would say yes to both. In the short term, they were probably distraught, but with a little bit of maturity and perspective, they probably felt more positive overall. And I hope they would. I want them to be hungry for more, but I also want them to have far more perspective about the season as a whole than most Jets fans seem to.
If you are convinced they will never win a title in your lifetime, and the only true joy you can take from the team is winning a SB, why would you put yourself through that?
The rest of the afc east had the same schedule true. I really thought we should be challenging for 1st place with the team we put together and the money we spent. Cheaters oline was not so good this year. You know how long I have waited for that to happen? If the schedule was harder maybe the cheaters only win 10 games. That's unheard of. You know, the only teams that the cheaters beat with over .500 record was us and the Steelers. And the Steelers game was week 1 right after brady was let off and the steeelers were without their top back and receiver. Cheaters were prime for the taking this season. Of course the only team we beat with a winning record was the cheaters. They may have been the only team with a winning record that we played.
I made the exact same point about their schedule. Their only wins against winning teams were against us and Pittsburgh, along with the 9-7 Redskins and Texans.
I don't really understand why people insist on pointing out our division had a similar schedule. How does that affect the statement that we as a team had an easy schedule year? ?? The Jets don't expect to have an easier path to the playoffs in the next 4 years, than we had this season. We had a winnable group of opponents.
Of course you can never predict the future, and we see perceived easy schedules, turn into difficult opponents.
But that doesn't change the fact that we missed the playoffs, and there's nothing to indicate next year is going to be anything but harder. Which means the only change we can affect, is improving our team.
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I honestly wish I could step away from it but I have always loved football and I have such a long time invested in this team it's just to hard to give it up. Like I said, I am trying to not take it so seriously because it makes me miserable way too much. if the cheaters would stop winning i could deal much better but with them favored for the superbowl every year and us hoping for a wildcard at best every year it's hard to take. Cheaters had a down year this year. 12 wins. we had one of our better years. 10 wins. That's just bad.
I'm not trying to argue or be a butthead here. It's just being a Jet fan in Ct. surrounded by bandwagon cheater fans is taking it's toll. I get in argument with cheater fans regularly and how do you really defend the Jets when someone says they stink? You have to say they are right and play the cheater card. That's pretty much all you've got
You are right in that it is unpredictable from year to year. Who expected the Colts to be such an easy win this year? I bet before the season, a lot of people had that circled as a loss for the Jets, as well as for many other opponents.
And I absolutely agree with you that the Jets have to continue to improve. That almost goes without saying.
I have lived in central Massachusetts for more than a decade, and am moving to Connecticut later this month. I've experienced all you have.
The truth is, Brady won't be around forever. And Belichick won't stick around long without Brady, because if Brady retired and the Pats became mediocre, it would prove that the team's success is all due to Brady, not Belichick. So once Brady is gone, I think they will regress to the mean.
The problem is, most Pats fans are only casual football fans when they aren't winning. The Pats used to be what you did to kill time between the Sox being eliminated and pitchers and catchers reporting. Pats fans don't realize that this is special, and that it won't last forever.
oops. i forgot that Redskins and Texans ended up over .500. In a typical season the cheaters play between 4-6 teams that are good and they split with them. The rest of the teams they play are not good and they beat them. Seems like a simple thing to do. Split with the good teams, beat the teams that you are supposed to beat, and you win 12-14 games a season. Easy for the cheaters. Jets can never do it.
Remember. This season if we had beaten the Bills twice we would have won the damn division over those evil cheaters.
had we split with the Bills and beaten the raiders we would have won the division. In both cases I believe we also would have been the #1 seed
That makes the season seem a little more disappointing to me. we were so close
next year the cheaters oline should be better and our 100 million dollar signings will be getting older
I really thought, going into the season, the Jets would be about a 9 win team, 10 if everything broke right.
Maybe I just have tempered expectations, especially coming off a 4-12 year, and with a new, rookie HC, new, rookie GM, and a new QB. Perhaps I was selling them short, and didn't expect 11 or 12 wins.
Since I didn't expect the Jets to be 12-4 or 11-5, I can't exactly complain that they met, and even slightly exceeded, my expectations.
You're right, the Raiders loss and both to the Bills were tough. But what if they lost the Giants game, or the Pats? For all the close or heartbreaking losses, they had close and euphoric wins. All those things even out over the course of a season, which is why you are exactly what your record says you are.
And the Jets are a 10-6 team.