The Back-up Quarterback battle: Bryce Petty vs Geno Smith

[Bronx]

The Back-up Quarterback battle: Bryce Petty vs Geno Smith

This " battle " was over before it begun. If you notice, The Chiefs and the cowboys are scrambling to get a name on the roster that has played in games before. Most teams don't want a guy who has never taken a snap to be the back up, unless he has been great in practice. Fitzpatrick is a major injury concern, and that has to be factored in. This is really a dead topic


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[Old#15]

This " battle " was over before it begun. If you notice, The Chiefs and the cowboys are scrambling to get a name on the roster that has played in games before. Most teams don't want a guy who has never taken a snap to be the back up, unless he has been great in practice. Fitzpatrick is a major injury concern, and that has to be factored in. This is really a dead topic


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Agree with everything you are saying, but wouldn't it be great if Petty was a real option at the #2 spot? We could trade Geno to Cowboys and grab one of their surplus OLmen, or sweeten the deal with a pick and get Collins. RT this year and insurance in case Clady goes down.

 

[Bronx]

I shudder at the idea of a backup QB with no experience whatsoever. Especially when he is backing up a QB who has rarely played a full season.

Petty is gone or they waste a roster spot on a 4th QB

And so does the Coaching staff


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[Bronx]

Agree with everything you are saying, but wouldn't it be great if Petty was a real option at the #2 spot? We could trade Geno to Cowboys and grab one of their surplus OLmen, or sweeten the deal with a pick and get Collins. RT this year and insurance in case Clady goes down.

Yes it would. But then I would trade the lesser of the two.

Hey, Geno played his first 2 years and shouldn't have. Could you imagine if Petty played last year? He would be run out of town . And Hackenberg , forget it. They are getting the luxury of developing , and rightly so


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[Old#15]

Yes it would. But then I would trade the lesser of the two.

Hey, Geno played his first 2 years and shouldn't have. Could you imagine if Petty played last year? He would be run out of town . And Hackenberg , forget it. They are getting the luxury of developing , and rightly so


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[NYJETSDAN16]

I just don’t get the notion of fans being petrified of giving Bryce Petty the back up role if he honestly deserves it come week one of this season.
Because he’s “inexperienced”? If we look back in the history of the NFL, many organizations took that leap of faith and came out looking like geniuses.


Brett Favre- 1992, the Green Bay Packers went into that campaign with only two QB’s. Favre Backed up Don Majikowski, a Green Bay idol at the time. Sure Mike Holmgren could have tried to convice then GM Ron Wolf that Favre was too raw in year two, recently traded from Atlanta. Why risk the whole season god forbid the “Majik” man goes down?

Well, history showed that they had the COJONES to stick to their guns and the face of the franchise changed dramatically for the nect 12 years.


Kurt Warner- 1999. The St.Louis Rams had just invested some serious cash in Trent Green. No way they would place their fortunes into the hands of an arena football qb to back him up god forbid Green went down, right?
Yet again, the organization made the right choice and the rest was written in the annals of time.

Tom Brady-2001. Lets be real, we all know the story. But why would Bill Belichick ever place this kid behind Drew Bledsoe? Hell, he had Damon Huard who had game time experience. Sort of like what we have in Geno Smith, right? We all know what Smith is all about, kind of like what Bill Belichick knew what Huard already had to offer.


If Bryce Petty shows any sort of improvement from year one, he should be our #2. No more of this Geno Smith, Tony Banks 2.0 misery. It's as if we're giving up on the season if Petty is our number two. It's proposterous.

If you cut Petty today, he wont last long and teams will pick him up rather quickly. If you cut Geno this very minute, teams will actually wait until after the pre-season is over with. Geno is what he is, no matter what the talent is around him.

1st preseason game last night , Bryce seems like he made very good progress in this system. He played very good. No way they cut this kid over Happy feet Geno.

 

[lounap23]

They both looked like capable backups to me last night... Geno looked like Geno from his game last year... Made quicker decisions at times. Mad a couple of bad throws.... But overall I think Geno is improving.

Petty did look like he said more comfortable. He had some nice throws. Even on 2 big plays that he missed on I thought his throws were good. First one to Robby Anderson in the endzone. Put it where it needed to be for only his guy to make the play. Robby Caught but came in out of bounds, tough play for the WR but overall good throw good catch 50/50 on coming down in bounds..... No knock on Robby there. And the overthrow to Amaro... Watched that several times and Amaro had a little stutter in his step... Think the throw is money if Amaro runs through like he should have but that could be a timing thing between them... Overall I like what I saw from Geno and Petty.

Leaning with NYJetsDan if Petty can get more time against 1's and 2's and play the same... He looks like he is moving towards being the backup

 

[Bronx]

I would give Petty the very second series in the next game so we could evaluate against NFL speed


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[lounap23]

I would give Petty the very second series in the next game so we could evaluate against NFL speed


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Yeah we have to see him against 1's and 2's

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

If the Jets don't have plans for Geno then he should be the one cut so we don't carry 4 QB's which is stupid. Petty is #2 and if Fitz is hurt and Petty sucks then I'm sure it will only be slightly more than Geno has sucked in his career.

 

[isired]

I would have to disagree.... Anything approaching a tie. They will take the guy they drafted who is playing at the sdmae level as a guy with the exp... They will take the guy they see on an upswing and not even reaching his ceiling yet to the guy they think may have peaked.... Based on your statement that's how I see them going...

The tie I'm talking about is a training camp preseason tie. That's no reason to keep inexperience in real games vs. experience - not backing up the most important position on the field.

But honestly I've changed my opinion a bit. I think Fitz, Geno and Hack are locks, and Petty is really competing with himself - he's got to show them something, give them a reason to carry 4 QB's.

 

[isired]

I just don’t get the notion of fans being petrified of giving Bryce Petty the back up role if he honestly deserves it come week one of this season.
Because he’s “inexperienced”?

If he deserves it, meaning if the coaches think he gives us the same or better chance of winning a game, then he will and should get the spot, and the Geno Era will thankfully be over.

If the Jets don't have plans for Geno then he should be the one cut so we don't carry 4 QB's which is stupid. Petty is #2 and if Fitz is hurt and Petty sucks then I'm sure it will only be slightly more than Geno has sucked in his career.

No, you're not sure. And I trust that the coaches are not sure either, but know and, more importantly, see a lot more than we do.

Problem I have is that mistake Petty made, by throwing it away and stopping the clock, has nothing to do with his background. It was just not a smart play, and unfortunately it's the kind of play we're used to seeing g Geno make. The CS has to do a better job there.

 

[isired]

Hey, Geno played his first 2 years and shouldn't have. Could you imagine if Petty played last year? He would be run out of town . And Hackenberg , forget it. They are getting the luxury of developing , and rightly so.

This is probably the smartest statement in the thread. Bravo.

 

[gastineau]

I've heard a lot of questions if Fitzs got injured who would you want to come in as back up?Geno? Petty? My thought is this, if Fitz gets hurt it wont matter between Geno/Petyy because Jets wont win games with either this season. But the other thought is Geno has 1 year on his contract & will ask for big money as back up QB, while Petty has a couple more years of a rookie contract*& a bigger upside in potential where geno showed he doesnt. Keep Petty with upside & cheaper pay & let Geno go get paid elsewhere.

 

[DavidO]

I'd they don't think that they will keep Geno past this year, then he should be the one to be cut. If Fitz gets hurt, Petty gets invaluable experience to prepare him for 2017. Would be daft going into 2017 with Hack as #2 or facing paying bigger money to another #2 QB. Let this FO QB develop.

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[lounap23]

I'd they don't think that they will keep Geno past this year, then he should be the one to be cut. If Fitz gets hurt, Petty gets invaluable experience to prepare him for 2017. Would be daft going into 2017 with Hack as #2 or facing paying bigger money to another #2 QB. Let this FO QB develop.

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Again logic here. I agree but doesn't seem anyone else especailly reporters are applying any logic or common sense when it comes to Petty. Why throw away a promising talent in Petty if you don't plan on Geno being around... Especially since Petty has been nothing but improving

 

[mykcuz]

I'd they don't think that they will keep Geno past this year, then he should be the one to be cut. If Fitz gets hurt, Petty gets invaluable experience to prepare him for 2017. Would be daft going into 2017 with Hack as #2 or facing paying bigger money to another #2 QB. Let this FO QB develop.

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Good thought but wrong. Geno is our best backup this year. Petty learns what he learns, bit this year is Fitz chance to win and geno is the backup.
If Fitz is a boss, we resign him, if he's average or worse, we move on from him and geno next year. Hack and petty will split reps next year and the best man wins.

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[jetgreen13]

Good thought but wrong. Geno is our best backup this year. Petty learns what he learns, bit this year is Fitz chance to win and geno is the backup.
If Fitz is a boss, we resign him, if he's average or worse, we move on from him and geno next year. Hack and petty will split reps next year and the best man wins.

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definitely possible..

that said, i do believe there is a real competition for fitzpatrick's backup..

I've read at least 95% of flgreen's training camp threads & it sounds like petty is starting to get his stuff together.. for the most part, it also sounds like he had a nice game thursday.. if he continues to practice well & keeps showing positive signs in preseason, that would be enough for me to trust the kid as the number 2.. i believe/hope it would be enough for bowles as well..

if that's how it ends up playing out, i see the jets trying like hell to find a trading partner for smith.. if they aren't able to, i see him getting cut..

i would hate to see us lose a promising young player because we couldn't sneak him pass waivers..

at least not to keep smith under contract for one more season..

we shall see soon enough.....

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

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Good thought but wrong. Geno is our best backup this year. Petty learns what he learns, bit this year is Fitz chance to win and geno is the backup.
If Fitz is a boss, we resign him, if he's average or worse, we move on from him and geno next year. Hack and petty will split reps next year and the best man wins.

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With all due respect, Geno wasn't impressive at all Thursday night. A couple of good throws here and there but many of his passes were god-awful. Bounce passes to the floor, rushing his passes when he had time.

If it wasn't for that big return from Jalin Marshall, Geno would have not placed the team in position to score with less than a minute to go in that half.
By all accounts, Petty played much better than Geno in pre season game one that merits Petty getting reps next Friday night vs the two's.
Also, Petty had many plays under center that resulted in pass plays not just runs. Geno had "Zero". Four years into this league and Smith still can't take a snap under center and Petty in year two can?

The team cannot and absolutley should not by default give Smith the number two position just because he has game time "experience". If Bryce shows progression and continues to showcase in these games that he deserves to back-up Fitzpatrick, then the choice is obvious.

Geno shouldn't be handed anything. Let the best player earn it.

 

[mykcuz]

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With all due respect, Geno wasn't impressive at all Thursday night. A couple of good throws here and there but many of his passes were god-awful. Bounce passes to the floor, rushing his passes when he had time.

If it wasn't for that big return from Jalin Marshall, Geno would have not placed the team in position to score with less than a minute to go in that half.
By all accounts, Petty played much better than Geno in pre season game one that merits Petty getting reps next Friday night vs the two's.
Also, Petty had many plays under center that resulted in pass plays not just runs. Geno had "Zero". Four years into this league and Smith still can't take a snap under center and Petty in year two can?

The team cannot and absolutley should not by default give Smith the number two position just because he has game time "experience". If Bryce shows progression and continues to showcase in these games that he deserves to back-up Fitzpatrick, then the choice is obvious.

Geno shouldn't be handed anything. Let the best player earn it.

Just because I think geno is the best option at backup, doesn't mean I'm saying give it to him automatically, that's a leap.

Geno against a mix of 1 and 2s, and petty against the 3s is not apples to apples. And we as fans don't know what the coaches were working on, and what their intentions were. You can't look too much into pre season games, there's a whole lot going on that we don't recognize. Obviously, I think the best man souls get the job, and good play should be rewarded, I just think geno is that guy until petty surpases him.

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