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while i don't doubt the close ties between goodell and the pats, i'm not so sure the 31 other owners would be so happy with the pats getting a slap on the wrist and having the more severe penalties lessened. now i can see brady's suspension being reduced, but i think the other owners will go bonkers if the draft picks penalties are lessened (as to the cash fine, what's $1 million among these billionaires and billion-dollar franchises)?

maybe i'm being naive, but i just don't see how goodell doesn't expose himself to an owner-revolt (and 31 other owners combined are more powerful than kraft) by backing down on the pats right now. too many other teams have been on the losing end to the pats over the year to just turn a blind-eye on this.
 
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hobson54 said:
while i don't doubt the close ties between goodell and the pats, i'm not so sure the 31 other owners would be so happy with the pats getting a slap on the wrist and having the more severe penalties lessened. now i can see brady's suspension being reduced, but i think the other owners will go bonkers if the draft picks penalties are lessened (as to the cash fine, what's $1 million among these billionaires and billion-dollar franchises)?

maybe i'm being naive, but i just don't see how goodell doesn't expose himself to an owner-revolt (and 31 other owners combined are more powerful than kraft) by backing down on the pats right now. too many other teams have been on the losing end to the pats over the year to just turn a blind-eye on this.
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That's why Goodell is in an impossible spot. I don't see how he survives. He comes down hard on the Pats, he loses his biggest ally, the guy who pushed to get him $44MM per year. He eases off on the Pats, and 31 other teams push to get rid of him for favoritism.

If he shows favoritism, he loses the league. If he doesn't show favoritism, he loses Kraft. No way does he survive. I absolutely could see the suspension being cut in half and the draft picks restored. The fine, I'm not sure that is a major issue. But at the end of the day, no picks, Brady gets two games, Pats get fined $1MM, and two lackeys get fired. And we never find out the whole truth.
 
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That's why Goodell is in an impossible spot. I don't see how he survives. He comes down hard on the Pats, he loses his biggest ally, the guy who pushed to get him $44MM per year. He eases off on the Pats, and 31 other teams push to get rid of him for favoritism.

If he shows favoritism, he loses the league. If he doesn't show favoritism, he loses Kraft. No way does he survive. I absolutely could see the suspension being cut in half and the draft picks restored. The fine, I'm not sure that is a major issue. But at the end of the day, no picks, Brady gets two games, Pats get fined $1MM, and two lackeys get fired. And we never find out the whole truth.
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I see it going down like that too, just reading the tea leaves its all headed in that direction, then we'll see how the OUT OWNERS react. The rest of the clique (Rooney, Mara etc.) will back Goodell's play if he pulls back on the Patriots punishment, the clique sticks together, but if the other owners just passively sit back and take it, like they did when Goodell (at the behest of the clique) destroyed the SpyGate evidence, because they are content to just cash those big fat checks the clique provides with their network partners, then you know the league is corrupt beyond repair and you just have to live with the idea that there are a handful of franchises who are above the rules, and we ain't one of them.
 
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The problem for Goodell is that the Patriots, their media, and their fans think Goodell is out to get them, that he's a Jets lackey from his one year of interning back in the early 80s, and want him fired. Kraft likely knows better, but he has done nothing to put water on that fire. It seems he has allowed that fire to expand with his ridiculous proclamations of innocence, his demands for apologies, and his going back on his word about accepting the league's punishment.

Meanwhile, most of the national and local media around the rest of the league, and the fans of 31 other teams, think Goodell is a Kraft lackey, and want him fired. They see Goodell as caving to the guy who gives him the enormous salary he makes, and the guy who has had his back whenever a scandal has not involved the Patriots.
 
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The problem for Goodell is that the Patriots, their media, and their fans think Goodell is out to get them, that he's a Jets lackey from his one year of interning back in the early 80s, and want him fired. Kraft likely knows better, but he has done nothing to put water on that fire. It seems he has allowed that fire to expand with his ridiculous proclamations of innocence, his demands for apologies, and his going back on his word about accepting the league's punishment.

Meanwhile, most of the national and local media around the rest of the league, and the fans of 31 other teams, think Goodell is a Kraft lackey, and want him fired. They see Goodell as caving to the guy who gives him the enormous salary he makes, and the guy who has had his back whenever a scandal has not involved the Patriots.
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Despicable

Another reason I am certain cashing out of this corrupt scam is the thing to do, financially and ethically too
 
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I have no doubt the relationship between the NFL, CBS, and the Patriots will ensure the minimal penalty that could appease the other 31 franchises that are not in the loop (though you could argue 29, as both the Steelers' and Giants' ownerships are a part of the inner circle).
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I thought the original punishments already met that standard, and was the only reason the Pats didn't get the much more severe punishments I thought they deserved.
 
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I thought the original punishments already met that standard, and was the only reason the Pats didn't get the much more severe punishments I thought they deserved.
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Hey sack, did you edit your original post? Your post that I wascommenting on here said you thought the pnalities would be reduced to the minimum needed to appease the 31 other owners. Now Idon't even see the post I was commenting on anywhere.
 
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Hey sack, did you edit your original post? Your post that I wascommenting on here said you thought the pnalities would be reduced to the minimum needed to appease the 31 other owners. Now Idon't even see the post I was commenting on anywhere.
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Nope. I didn't touch it.
 
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Here are the answers you asked for, 54

I have 30K tied up in PSLS and it costs me 1500+ a season, plus time, parking, tolls to attend 8 games while paying for 10.

I no longer am that interested in paying those sums to watch contests that have become WWE like in terms of integrity where 31 teams play by one set of rules but become Washington Generals stooge teams to one team that has cheated with impunity, spat on their sport and has gone unpunished for more than a decade

Look at the crap that continues to occur....rules written and changed to make the mere touching of Brady a foul, rules establish to punish certain coaches like Payton, certain owners like Irsay and the Falcon owner and others while letting the most heinous 15 year cheaters off with wrist slaps or no punishment at all

This latest wrist slap for blatant cheating again is the last straw for me. Hopefully the Jets have a good season by tying Geno Hopeless securely to the bench or cutting him, allowing me to get back a greater portion of my PSL investment back

After that, I might stubhub 2 or 3 games a season but will probably find better ways to spend Sundays in the fall.

All this could change, I guess, but a crash of the Patriots plane on the way to or from a road game is quite unlikely

As for where I post, my friend, that is really none of your business since this is still a free country probably until some Ted Cruz type changes that

Thanks for your concern
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this is uncalled for i dislike the pats organization but not like this
 
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this is uncalled for i dislike the pats organization but not like this
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It was a joke renegade

I'll insert a smiley [emoji4] [emoji1] [emoji14] [emoji4] [emoji1] next time to make sure. For the record, I wouldn't wish a plane crash on anybody even the Patriots
 
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Dear NFLPA,

Next time you negotiate and sign a collective bargaining agreement, don't give the Commissioner the final arbiter powers

Good luck in 2024 or whenever this one expires
 
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ucrenegade said:
this is uncalled for i dislike the pats organization but not like this
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Totally agreed. I'd like to beat them on a fair field, at their best. That's what makes the 2011 playoff win so special.

I would never wish ill upon a sports team like that. Caught cheating? Sure. But as a Manchester United fan, I know how devastating a plane crash can be to a sports franchise and its supporters, even if it was before I was born.
 
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Totally agreed. I'd like to beat them on a fair field, at their best. That's what makes the 2011 playoff win so special.

I would never wish ill upon a sports team like that. Caught cheating? Sure. But as a Manchester United fan, I know how devastating a plane crash can be to a sports franchise and its supporters, even if it was before I was born.
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I live near marshall, in fact the dean of marshall at the time of the crash left marshall and became dean of radford university 5 mins down the road from me.

His tenure was short at Marshall before becoming president of Radford University on March 20, 1972. Dr. Dedmon served in this capacity for more than twenty years, during which time the University experienced great growth and a major change from an all woman's college to a co-ed institution, before reaching university status in 1979. The enrollment tripled during this time span.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Dedmon
 
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@RichCimini #Jetsmail was Revis over the line with the innuendo about deflategate? He provided smoke but no fire.

@RichCimini: Who's line? If you're a Jets fan, you loved his comments. If you're a Patriots fan, you'll have another reason to boo him when he comes to Foxborough in the fall. I agree with your assessment -- smoke, but no fire. I thought he was stating the obvious when he said the Patriots "have a history of doing stuff." No kidding. I sensed an overall ambivalence toward Tom Brady and the Patriots in his comments to the New York Daily News. Minutes earlier, speaking to a group of reporters, Revis sounded like he couldn't care less about the current predicament of his previous team. I'm sure his quotes were noted in the Belichick bunker.
 
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