Devin McCourty to remain with Pats

[SackExchange]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying your wrong about Revis, in fact you may be 100% correct, we'll see. What I'm simply questioning is your idea that a penny more and he signing with that team, maybe if that team is the Seahawks, or another contender, but the Jets or Jaguars? I highly doubt he's going to be jumping at an extra 500 grand to run of and sign with any of the bottom feeders of the NFL, don't forget this is his last contract, I don't believe he's going to want to spend the rest of his career being out of the playoffs by October unless he's getting a heck of a lot more than a million bucks. Which brings me back to my original point and I'll stand by it, the Jets will have to pay "shttp://nyjetsfanatics.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=18304ignificantly more than the Pats to land Revis". If I'm wrong we'll know in a couple of days.

You are undervaluing how important money is to this guy.

Truth is, facts are on my side, and you are merely speculating. He has a history of seeking top dollar, wherever he can get it. On the other hand, he has zero history with giving a team a discount because they're good.

When he got into the contract dispute with the Jets that got him traded to Tampa, were the Jets the worst team in the league? Or even close? No. They had just recently been to two conference title games. But he didn't offer them a dime of relief to stay, so he could pursue a title. He chased every penny he could then.

But I forgot. That wasn't the Patriots. Guys will only offer hometown discounts to the Pats.

 

[Jet Setter]

to be honest, as a player the last person i'd want to play for is Belichick. He discards players like nothing. It's the right thing to do from a team management point of view but loyalty does go a long way and he doesn't have it. Look what he did to Mankins.

Sorry, I replied to the wrong post somehow.

 

[grogan14]

First of all, Revis is not a free agent. And yes you are a troll, because you come here to 'discuss' in a condescending fashion why a certain player would only play for your team. A team by the way that is run by a convicted cheat.

That's not at all what I said, I simply stated that I believe for Revis to sign with the Jets that they would have to offer him significantly more than the pats and by ore I would think several million more in guaranteed money. That's an opinion and no it doesn't make me a Troll, you more than welcome to form your own opinion.

 

[SackExchange]

Sorry but is that not the reality of the situation? Does not the reality of the situation exactly impact what we are discussing? I could see if I came out and started hurling insults and calling names but the fact is we are talking about what a player is looking at in deciding what team to sign with. Now if you don't think Revis is considering the Jets history, record, and all of it in comparison to the Patriots and his experiences there, then I'm sorry but your just not being realistic.

He didn't consider the Jets' recent success when he got in the contract dispute that landed him in Tampa.

 

[Elias]

Meh

He's a Pats fan, and I totally disagree with his stance, but he hasn't done anything to disrupt the board. If he comes into every thread and hi jacks it, different story

I think we do need a bit of another team's fans on this board as long as they are not like you said, disruptive.

I also can't honestly disagree too much with what he said. All things equal, Revis stays with Pats over Jets. Agreed?

 

[cysporsche]

Screw Revis, let's jack the price up and then walk away and let the Patriots pay for what we could sign several FA's for.

And Mod's on this fantastic Jet board, please be careful who you except as members on the board. I've already seen several Jet boards ruined by other teams trolls who come to our board out of boredom.

Go Jets...Cyborg

 

[Jet Setter]

Well, where would you put that mark? 100 thousand? A million? How much do you think he's willing to sacrifice to go from playing for a consistent contender, to playing for a 5 or 6 win team? I don't think we are saying different things , there is a $$$ line, the question is where is it. Would you at lest agree that if it's even money then he's not playing for the Jets?

Look, pal. I'm not the one wavering here. I told you I don't subscribe to this dreamy fan notion that the players are in the bag for heroically taking much less to play for a better team. I know this game is very temporary and players want to take advantage of as much cash as they can.

You can pontificate about what you believe to be fact but I'm not playing that game. Get over it. Next topic, please.

 

[hobson54]

That's not at all what I said, I simply stated that I believe for Revis to sign with the Jets that they would have to offer him significantly more than the pats and by ore I would think several million more in guaranteed money. That's an opinion and no it doesn't make me a Troll, you more than welcome to form your own opinion.

i don't necessarily think you were being a troll, but when you make a comment above about how if revis signed with a team like the jets or jaguars he would be consigned to finishing his career being eliminated from the playoffs in october, that is trolling. while the jets have hit the skids the last few years, we aren't that far removed from back-to-back afc title games (one of which came after beating the pats).

so while i'd be foolish to say that the jets are better poised to win this coming year than the pats, i resent the implication this is a dreadful, bottom dwelling team that hasn't competed in a long time. and in today's nfl, teams can rise up (or fall back) in the standings pretty quickly.

as to revis, i actually tend to side with your position that if the money is close (say within a million or two in guaranteed money), he would stay with NE. what that dividing line is between chasing top dollar and staying with the current SB champions is unknown.

 

[flgreen]

I think we do need a bit of another team's fans on this board as long as they are not like you said, disruptive.

I also can't honestly disagree too much with what he said. All things equal, Revis stays with Pats over Jets. Agreed?

All things equal.....Probably.

Revis also likes NYC......Well, because it's NYC. Big media, when your a star here, your a Super Star. Also a lot of money to be made off the field, TV, endorsements.

Besides the money Revis likes the lime light

 

[grogan14]

You are undervaluing how important money is to this guy.

Truth is, facts are on my side, and you are merely speculating. He has a history of seeking top dollar, wherever he can get it. On the other hand, he has zero history with giving a team a discount because they're good.

When he got into the contract dispute with the Jets that got him traded to Tampa, were the Jets the worst team in the league? Or even close? No. They had just recently been to two conference title games. But he didn't offer them a dime of relief to stay, so he could pursue a title. He chased every penny he could then.

But I forgot. That wasn't the Patriots. Guys will only offer hometown discounts to the Pats.

Again, I think you're missing my point. Let me restate, all things being equal and the contract offers exactly the same Revis signs with the Pats. After that there is a needle pointing the Jets way in terms of dollars offered that continues to climb before I believe he decides to sign with the Jets, you on the other hand believe one tick over and he signs with the jets correct? Well we are likely to see who is closer to correct in the next 48hrs, and if that turns out to be you, I'll gladly say so.

 

[SackExchange]

I think we do need a bit of another team's fans on this board as long as they are not like you said, disruptive.

I also can't honestly disagree too much with what he said. All things equal, Revis stays with Pats over Jets. Agreed?

I agree he's done nothing disruptive here. He should stay.

But it can be trollish to talk about how guys would give their left nut to win titles for the beloved Pats, and how much more you have to pay to get them to struggle to win six games with those awful Jets. We could do without that stuff, and the Patriots entitlement. It seems downright disrespectful to the Jets, and on a Jets board. That can start getting dangerously close to trolling.

 

[SackExchange]

Again, I think you're missing my point. Let me restate, all things being equal and the contract offers exactly the same Revis signs with the Pats. After that there is a needle pointing the Jets way in terms of dollars offered that continues to climb before I believe he decides to sign with the Jets, you on the other hand believe one tick over and he signs with the jets correct? Well we are likely to see who is closer to correct in the next 48hrs, and if that turns out to be you, I'll gladly say so.

All things being the same, equivalent money, he stays. Absolutely.

He also would have stayed with the Jets if they were willing to offer him what Tampa was a couple years ago.

As for where the line is? I don't know. I don't think it's as big a number as you do, or even close. Winning has never been as important to Mevi$ as money has been.

 

[SackExchange]

i don't necessarily think you were being a troll, but when you make a comment above about how if revis signed with a team like the jets or jaguars he would be consigned to finishing his career being eliminated from the playoffs in october, that is trolling. while the jets have hit the skids the last few years, we aren't that far removed from back-to-back afc title games (one of which came after beating the pats).

so while i'd be foolish to say that the jets are better poised to win this coming year than the pats, i resent the implication this is a dreadful, bottom dwelling team that hasn't competed in a long time. and in today's nfl, teams can rise up (or fall back) in the standings pretty quickly.

as to revis, i actually tend to side with your position that if the money is close (say within a million or two in guaranteed money), he would stay with NE. what that dividing line is between chasing top dollar and staying with the current SB champions is unknown.

This.

This is why hobson was such a good mod for so many years.

 

[Xmarco]

If money is even I think he comes back...he was on national commercials as a Jet

 

[grogan14]

i don't necessarily think you were being a troll, but when you make a comment above about how if revis signed with a team like the jets or jaguars he would be consigned to finishing his career being eliminated from the playoffs in october, that is trolling. while the jets have hit the skids the last few years, we aren't that far removed from back-to-back afc title games (one of which came after beating the pats).

so while i'd be foolish to say that the jets are better poised to win this coming year than the pats, i resent the implication this is a dreadful, bottom dwelling team that hasn't competed in a long time. and in today's nfl, teams can rise up (or fall back) in the standings pretty quickly.

as to revis, i actually tend to side with your position that if the money is close (say within a million or two in guaranteed money), he would stay with NE. what that dividing line is between chasing top dollar and staying with the current SB champions is unknown.

I'm not saying that's true for the long hall or not, just trying to paint the picture from the perspective of what the player would likely be looking at in comparing the two options. Otherwise we seem to be in agreement, I believe there is a dividing line outside of pure dollars and cents, others don't and that's fine.

 

[grogan14]

All things being the same, equivalent money, he stays. Absolutely.

He also would have stayed with the Jets if they were willing to offer him what Tampa was a couple years ago.

As for where the line is? I don't know. I don't think it's as big a number as you do, or even close. Winning has never been as important to Mevi$ as money has been.

Again you may be correct, at least I believe we understand our different points of view without malice.

 

[SackExchange]

Again you may be correct, at least I believe we understand our different points of view without malice.

We're good now, absolutely. And I may be correct, while Revis may surprise me and take less money to stay. I'd be shocked, because it is out-of-character for him.

 

[flgreen]

If money is even I think he comes back...he was on national commercials as a Jet

I agree

Besides money the next thing Revis loves is seeing his picture on the tube, and the money taht comes with it. In Boston he will always be #2 to Brady. He comes here, he's back to "Revis Island" fame

 

[Elias]

I agree

Besides money the next thing Revis loves is seeing his picture on the tube, and the money taht comes with it. In Boston he will always be #2 to Brady. He comes here, he's back to "Revis Island" fame

Good point! I still remember in 2010 home opener how they brought him out last with smoke blowing at him and the crowd going nuts. Great feeling for him, probably. Besides $ lol

 

[SackExchange]

That is a good point. It could be a factor. He's nobody's second fiddle with the Jets.

Plus, the Jets have a better front seven, which could help him in the secondary, and get him to put up better stats.

Though his primary motivation is, and will remain, money.